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Old 11-04-2015, 07:34 AM   #113
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Although I personally was never a Boy Scout, they still have a pretty good Motto! "Be Prepared"
You took the words from out of my keyboard!
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Old 11-04-2015, 08:22 AM   #114
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Can you tell me which states consider an RV being camped in a dwelling under state law?
Any state with castle doctrine laws will view it as a dwelling. And as of today that number is 25. And many other states have laws in place which state that any dwelling, RV, trailer, tent, vehicle which is stationary and being occupied for means of living is considered a residence. Even the 4th amendment protect such dwellings.

But, what do I know. I get my information from my DW who is a civil liberties attorney. Or, you know, Google is your friend to find any number of government websites with this publicly listed information.
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I myself am not really concerned with someone breaking into my coach at night while we are in there, but if they do then I am prepared. My concern is someone sneaking around our site looking for things to take, like bicycles, barbecues, chairs, or snooping around my motorcycles. I got one of those cheap motion detector alarms from Harbor Freight and set that out at night time and it works very good. Maybe too good if a dog or cat comes around but it still lets you know something is out there.
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"Be prepared" is far different from "Be afraid". When folks post statistics without knowing how often an occupied RV is broken into, they are afraid. When folks post a news story or two about a murder, assault, or robbery in an RV park to justify their decision they are afraid.

Do the Boy Scouts have an official position to carry a knife because someone would attack them and they would need to use it for self defense, possibly killing their attacker and putting everyone else around them at risk for stray knife wounds because the knife would easily penetrate the walls of their camping shelter?
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Even the 4th amendment protect such dwellings.
The fourth amendment covers your pockets, that cannot make them a dwelling.

You have a good source of legal advice with you constantly. Who else does? How do you keep track of case law as you move from state to state? Who else does this, and understands it?
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A dog or two and a gun, put a NRA sticker in the window.
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It appears that many folks like to scare themselves and then load up on firearms in an attempt to protect themselves from their fears. It certainly does give them a talking point.
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In over 60 years of camping and RVing all over the US and Canada, we have never had anything hoarked from our campsite (chairs, tables, bikes, grills, lanterns, et al). Also never had unwelcome visitors, break ins or vandalism. Nothing!
It must be saying something about WHERE we camp, eh?
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... put a NRA sticker in the window.
So they can break into yours while your gone looking for your guns and leave my "undecorated" rig alone. Sounds like a great plan!
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Agree with 1bigmess that an NRA sticker is an announcement that "here be firearms!!!"
Most shooters are beyond incompetent when it comes to confontational situations. I shot IPSC and IDPA for seven years and I would not have trusted most of theses "combat pistol shooters with a nerf noodle under stress. I was a LRRP in RVN but that was 48 years ago and, as noted in earlier posting on this thread, I am not the same person with the same skill/mindset of those days and am quite happy about that.
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"Be prepared" is far different from "Be afraid".
Do the Boy Scouts have an official position to carry a knife because someone would attack them and they would need to use it for self defense, possibly killing their attacker and putting everyone else around them at risk for stray knife wounds because the knife would easily penetrate the walls of their camping shelter?

1bigmess,

Never said anything about the Boy Scouts having an official position on a knife or attacking someone, I just stated that the Boy Scouts had a good motto "Be Prepared!"

Everyone needs to decide for themselves what "Being Prepared" means to them in a specific situation. I have, and I am. nuff said
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What a crazy thread!

Call me crazy but I don't worry about it one iota.
It's simple. Don't camp in places that would put you in jeopardy!
I can't imagine a burglar wanting to break into your RV in a campground with people 10' away with windows facing your door.

In Canada, you aren't allowed to carry firearms. I don't see an epidemic happening here of people being broken into whether in their RV or not and because they are defenseless.

Statistically, if you counted how many people live/camp in an RV on a daily basis and how many are burglarized, I don't even know if you could record the percentage amount as it would have so many digits below 1%.

I'd worry more about the odds of falling in my campfire after a beer than I would being broken into.

I'm sensible like Dave. Stay out of seedy areas. Stay in well lit camp facilities, don't leave valuables laying around your campsite unattended and lock your doors at night.
You'll be fine.

Worry about where you're going next and what new memory you're going to create. Enjoy this great land of ours and what it has to offer!
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What a crazy thread!

Call me crazy but I don't worry about it one iota.
It's simple. Don't camp in places that would put you in jeopardy!
I can't imagine a burglar wanting to break into your RV in a campground with people 10' away with windows facing your door.

In Canada, you aren't allowed to carry firearms. I don't see an epidemic happening here of people being broken into whether in their RV or not and because they are defenseless.

Statistically, if you counted how many people live/camp in an RV on a daily basis and how many are burglarized, I don't even know if you could record the percentage amount as it would have so many digits below 1%.

I'd worry more about the odds of falling in my campfire after a beer than I would being broken into.

I'm sensible like Dave. Stay out of seedy areas. Stay in well lit camp facilities, don't leave valuables laying around your campsite unattended and lock your doors at night.
You'll be fine.

Worry about where you're going next and what new memory you're going to create. Enjoy this great land of ours and what it has to offer!

That's the ticket, Les!
The stats of actual criminal events against RVers that are not in risk locations cannot even be measured.
Sad some don't get it.
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In over 60 years of camping and RVing all over the US and Canada, we have never had anything hoarked from our campsite (chairs, tables, bikes, grills, lanterns, et al). Also never had unwelcome visitors, break ins or vandalism. Nothing!
It must be saying something about WHERE we camp, eh?
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This may be true for you and me but I have had rangers and fellow campers tell me about bikes and generators disappearing over night at beach locations and other campgrounds. I do not trust anyone so I always put things away and lock other equipment up, like my bikes or motorcycles. Many years ago I had an acquaintance get up in the morning to find his dirt bike was nowhere to be found. That takes balls to go into a camp and steal a motorcycle but it is not unheard of. And I do not find myself camping in shady areas either, just places that other humans go to as well.
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