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Old 05-05-2011, 09:56 AM   #29
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John, good to hear its not cuz you arent happy with the Class A.
J&SW- 395 is worth getting the "right" kind of instruction on something as critical as driving such a large beast down busy highways. definitely will keep that in mind when we're able to buy.
RRAY, I can see just wanting to rest after a long roadtrip. Knowing my family, I think we'd still be tempted to wanna "get out" for a bite to eat, but can't know til we try. So much of these kinda variables are ones usually figured out in hindsight ha! thanks for varying opinions though.
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Old 05-05-2011, 10:08 AM   #30
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Hi,
I agree with Tom Walt as Wa-lmart or any other shopping area is not boondocking but is a parking lot. Boondocking is in places liked Quartzsite, AZ.
If you want to drop your toad then go to a campground and stay a few days. That is what campgrounds are for whether it be a private campground, state campground or national park.
You must realize that Wal-mart is a parking lot and they are nice enough to let us park overnight and not camp in their lot. Awnings, barbeques, chairs are not to be put out, you are to just PARK.
Have fun Rving and just park in Wal-mart not camp there.
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Old 05-05-2011, 11:59 AM   #31
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Have fun Rving and just park in Wal-mart not camp there.
Ha, I dont think I'd even considering setting everything out in a parking lot so I probably gave the wrong impression with my original question.

I guess it's maybe slight advantage for a class A/b/C with a toad, as if you take off in your toad to eat out then what is still parked at the lot is a vehicle. Whereas if you take off in the truck that pulls a 5er, unhitched, then what is left is just the home part (which then begs the question of this newbie, why do they call fifth wheels/trailers a recreational vehicle as it can't propel itself?)
We've left a car parked in walmart overnight, or a weekend even if a situation arose that it would be helpful, so again, parking motorhome there for an hour or 2 unattended shouldnt be much of an issue (again as long as you didnt set it up Camp style with the jacks down, lawn chairs out alongside the pink flamingoes)

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You were worried about someone hooking up a running away with the trailer while you are gone. They do make some good locks for both tow and 5th wheels. I own a 5th and on a few ocasions I have had to leave it parked in less than desirable places but i have a decent lock for the pin and as an added measure I switch the battery disconnect switch off so that you can't raise or lower the legs, I realize the compartments are easy to get into but i'm sure that would buy some time before they could even find the disconnect switch.
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Old 05-13-2011, 07:54 AM   #33
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Thanks Grimreaper, didnt know about the 'hitch locks' . good to know. As we look at fulltiming, there just doesn't seem to be the same sense of security as having a house. The scenario that comes up often is, say we're going to visit family for a few days (without the RV) - or if we take a vacation to the Caribbean (and RV's don't fly/float) - how secure or safe is it to be left at the park or wherever we're long-terming at the time. We figure parks generally aren't liable for the RV or stuff that's using them, and generally probably don't have much in the way of 'security staff'
Knowing that a hitch-lock can help be a deterrent of someone just pulling away with OUR HOUSE .. is a nice thought ha.
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I actually have a friend that had his rig stolen from the side of the highway. His truck broke down and he had to unhook his 5th wheel to have his truck towed 5km away and he did not have a lock for his 5th wheel, he said he was gone for about 45 minutes. I don't know if you are familiar with the 401 highway in Ontario but I bet 500 vehicles went by in that 45min. He never did see his 5th wheel again.
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Glad to hear you like the way it turned out. Am about to make the same decision and hope it turns out as well.
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Old 07-17-2011, 07:27 PM   #37
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One advantage to the MH toad is bad weather. Stop eat bed never out in the weather. With a 4 slide MH I would say about the same living space as the 5vr. Most MH's come all set with gen et-all no xtras needed. As far as just an overnight we don't do dinner out at least 90% of the time. And we do pickup a few things at the Walmarts when we do stay there, but prefer to find one of the many Casinos or just a boondocking place on route, many times by a lake or some other interest.

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we stay at walmarts a lot. we usually do not disconnect the dolly/toad. sometimes we use the toad for short trips to get something to eat, etc. we try to park our moho such that we can extend our bedroom slide over grass or next to a light pole. we usually eat breakfast at walmart.
we use this free website a lot. it is updated by users by email.

Walmart Store Locations Map - Wal-Mart Guide
Don't count on it being correct in Canada, there are quite a few with incorrect information. I don't know how accurate it is for the US, but if you are planning any stays at WM north of the border it would be best to ask here on the forum.
For example Allstays show all WalMarts in NS as no overnight parking. In fact there are only two that have restrictions, and at one of them it's not enforced, Also the WM at Yarmouth is not listed and O.N. parking is also allowed there.
For PEI it shows the two WM's as overnight parking. That is wrong overnight parking at both of them is restricted by the property owner at the WalMart's request, reasons stated because of RV overnighters behavior. Nuff said about that already.
There are a couple in Ontario wrongly posted.
Best to check before you leave and you won't be dissapointed
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Don't count on it being correct in Canada, there are quite a few with incorrect information. I don't know how accurate it is for the US, but if you are planning any stays at WM north of the border it would be best to ask here on the forum.
For example Allstays show all WalMarts in NS as no overnight parking. In fact there are only two that have restrictions, and at one of them it's not enforced, Also the WM at Yarmouth is not listed and O.N. parking is also allowed there.
For PEI it shows the two WM's as overnight parking. That is wrong overnight parking at both of them is restricted by the property owner at the WalMart's request, reasons stated because of RV overnighters behavior. Nuff said about that already.
There are a couple in Ontario wrongly posted.
Best to check before you leave and you won't be dissapointed
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if you have first hand knowledge of these errors, send allstays an email and they will correct them. please include as much info about each store as possible such as where to park rv's in their lot.
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Hi Dan
I did send an email to Allstays Sept. 2010 and received an answer as quoted. Nohing has changed but I guess it doesn't matter much anymore since other than the signs at WM in Truro (town by-law not enforced) and at WM Mumford Rd.Halifax (understandable, parking is premium at this location) I've overnighted at several more stores on Cape Breton Isle.and they were surprised that I asked. I guess as with Allstays, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink
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> Dear Sir/Ms
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> I have been using your web site 2005
> Walmart Canada Locations - Wal-Mart Guide
>
> With regard to the Atlantic Provinces, it appears that the information
> shown has not been updated for some time.

> Regarding the two Wal Mart stores in PEI
>
> Wal-Mart
> <http://linksynergy.walmart.com/fs-bi...H38&offerid=13
> 0188.1
> 0004273&type=3&subid=0>
> 80 Buchanan Dr, Charlottetown PEI , (902) 628-4600 and
> Wal-Mart
> <http://linksynergy.walmart.com/fs-bi...H38&offerid=13
> 0188.1
> 0004273&type=3&subid=0>
> 511 Granvillest, Summerside PEI , (902) 432-3570
>
> These stores No longer allow RV overnight parking. The associated
> store parking lots belong to First Pro Property Management of Vaughan, ON.
>
> http://www.irv2.com/forums/f93/more-...nning-overnigh
> t-rv-p arking-73354.html (reasons also posted)
>
> With regard to Nova Scotia Wal Marts, there is only one store at
> present that Bans All Overnight parking, located at:
>
> 6990 Mumford Rd, Halifax NS
>
> 902-454-7990
>
> Users say No Overnight Parking This is correct and there are signs to
> confirm it, the store is in downtown Halifax with limited parking,
> understandable
>
>
>
> 108 Starrs Road, Yarmouth NS
>
> 902-749-2306
>
> Users say No Overnight Parking? We have overnighted at this location
> Sept 2006 there are no longer any signs
>
>
>
> 492 Hwy303, Digby NS
>
> 902-245-6020
>
> Users say No Overnight Parking? we have overnighted at this location
> for
> two nights Sept 2006 there are no longer any signs
>
>
>
> 60 New Pine Grove Rd, Bridgewater NS
>
> 902-543-8680
>
> Users say No Overnight Parking ? we have overnighted at this location
> Sept 2006 there are no longer any signs
>
>
>
> 220 Chain Lake Dr, Halifax NS
>
> 902-450-5570
>
> Users say No Overnight Parking we have overnighted at this location
> Sept
> 2006 there are no longer any signs
>
>
>
> 46 Robert Angus Dr, Amherst NS
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> 902-661-3476
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> Users say No Overnight Parking ? RVer reported on the RVnet.Com forums
> that they parked overnight at this
>
> Location Posted: 08/25/10 05:59pm
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>
> http://www.coastresorts.com/cforum/I...thread/tid/243
> 22872/
> gotomsg/24323140.cfm#24323140
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>
>
> 689 Westville Rd, New Glasgow NS
>
> 902-928-0008
>
> Users say No Overnight Parking?
>
> I live not far from this location and I can assure you there are
> RV's overnight parking here every night all during the tourism
> seasons. The Canadian Tire Store in the same area allows RV overnight
> parking and I understand the Canadian Tire Store in Sydney allows
> overnight parking, I will be checking out some of the NS stores beginning next week.
>
>
>
> All signs quoting the Tourism Act Of Nova Scotia as a reason were
> ordered to be taken down by the Provincial Government as the signs in
> themselves were breaking the law
>
>
>
> email I received from the now governing NDP party the first nail in
> the casket!
>
> Quote:
>
> " Hi Willis - I have contacted the researcher at the NDP Caucus office
> and this is the information she has provided:
>
>
>
> There is NO SUCH THING as RV parking ban legislation; it doesn't exist
> and it is not illegal to park your RV in a parking lot anywhere in
> Nova Scotia , unless that mall or store has signs telling you not to.
>
>
>
> There is a law about operating unlicensed campgrounds, but the
> difference would be if WalMart charged overnight fees and offered
> services like showers, etc. Simply stopping overnight is definitely *not* illegal.
>
>
>
> The province has allowed the misguided impression to spread that it is
> illegal. The documents I got through freedom of information clearly
> state from the Dept. of Tourism: legal opinion is clear that the
> province does not have the jurisdiction to ban RV parking in parking lots.
>
>
>
> Thank you for asking for an update - I am glad to have this new
> information on hand.
>
> I hope you enjoy the rally!
>
> Jeanine
>
> Constituency Assistant for Clarrie MacKinnon
>
> MLA for Pictou East
>
> 1905 Main St, Westville, NS B0K 2A0
>
> ph: 902-396-1853 fax: 902-396-1803 "
>
> end Quote
>
> I trust this will help in removing a tourism deterrent to those
> wishing to park overnight free in Nova Scotia
>
>
>
> Yours truly
Received from Allstays
Quote:
Thanks Willis, I appreciate it very much. I can only go by what is told to me and don't really change it until I hear otherwise. I get reports that conflict with each other within days sometimes. Things change quickly. I also believe it is appearance when people ask. One person may can be denied while someone else looks a bit cleaner or has a better rig and is approved.

So these reports help a bunch. I'll get them updated over the next day or two. I get very few reports on Canada parking. Maybe 1-2 a month versus 10 a day in the USA. So these definitely help.

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looked a both trailers and mh decided on class c motor home as our first,
with a tt had to keep a tow vehicle that would set a lot and get bad mileage if used day to day,like my gmc but in better shape. would need place out of weather for storage, and security issues of some one trying to haul it off when i'm not looking.
on the mh side still bad mileage but only when used, store it in my shop easy to move when need to,and the deciding factor at least for the dw was she could sleep in when i wanted to get on down the road, have done this, she woke up happy many miles down the road.
will upgrade to a class a in a few years but want to teach the dw to drive this one first. basically what ever is best for you at this point in your life.
five years ago if you told me i would have a mh i would have laughed at you now not so much
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To me boondocking is camping in an unimproved camp site i.e. Crown land or state forest. We have a teardrop trailer with solar and a pump and filter so that I can pull water from a stream or lake and make it potable. The tear can follow our Subaru most any place. There are more serious off road tears designed to go anyplace you can drive to with a serious 4X4 but I wanted the comforts, shower, Dish TV...
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