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Old 11-30-2013, 11:58 AM   #43
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I will probably just go right into a LTVA since I need to dump often. I doubt I want to be there more than a month so I'll probably do two of the 2 week passes for $40 each. If I use the vault toilets some of the time, I can dump once a week. Showering uses up fresh water super fast. Maybe I'll get my hair cut short so I don't have to use as much water for showering since most gets used for hair washing, I find. I have very thick hair.
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I will probably just go right into a LTVA since I need to dump often. I doubt I want to be there more than a month so I'll probably do two of the 2 week passes for $40 each. If I use the vault toilets some of the time, I can dump once a week. Showering uses up fresh water super fast. Maybe I'll get my hair cut short so I don't have to use as much water for showering since most gets used for hair washing, I find. I have very thick hair.


Be advised that there are private camgrounds in the area for those not wanting to dry camp.
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Old 11-30-2013, 01:07 PM   #45
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Be advised that there are private camgrounds in the area for those not wanting to dry camp.
I would be surprised if you can manage to get a spot here so close to the event. We struggled to make a booking 2 month ago.

Maybe outside of Quartzsite? Ehrenburg is not that far away.
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Old 11-30-2013, 01:11 PM   #46
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Yes, I am aware of them but prefer not to pay the high dollar rent they charge. The really only limitation I have is my grey water capacity. I actually replaced the missing grey water tank before I set out, since without it, my only option would have been to put a direct outlet without any holding capacity meaning I'd have to always have sewer hookup.

I have plenty of solar and propane capacity to stay off the grid. Showering is really the only thing that trips me up if I don't REALLY limit my water consumption for it. Even so, I have to go dump not long after (next day probably). I have another topic going about the subject of low water usage shower heads and I'm not having very good luck with it so far since RV hand held shower heads don't like to have gpm listed. I want as low as possible. 2.5gpm is way too much in my opinion. 5 minutes total of 2.5gpm is 12.5 gallons... almost half of my total water capacity. I'm looking for 1-1.5gpm.

I may just have to dump grey and refill my fresh every few days. Still cheaper in gas than paying for rent assuming I even found an open spot in an RV park. I can fit into tiny spots though so I have a BIG advantage over most people's RVs. I paid $220 for a month (plus metered electric, about $10/mo for me) here in Benson, AZ at El Rio RV park.

It's a very small place, no 40fter could fit into the space I got. A 32ft trailer could maybe but you have to unhitch from it due to the small space for overnight (they do Passport America for 1/2 price nightly), else you'd block the driveway. My 19ft van fits in with space to spare. I may be cramped for space inside but I can park almost anywhere without being cramped outside.
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You mentioned getting a folding 5 gallon water container to haul water. You could also get a folding grey water container. I got a 5 gallon folding container in Yuma with a hose fitting on it. Barker also makes a 5 gallon tote that shouldn't take up too much space. Barker 5 gallon tote. They have separate dumps for totes that are never busy. You could camp in close proximity to one of them and carry the tote over to dump it as necessary. As I remember it, there are Porta Pottis near the tote dump. La Posa South is the only LTVA with dump and water. It is outh of Quartzsite on the east side.
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$50 for a 5 gallon jug? Ouch.

Dumping isn't what takes a lot of time anyway. Refilling fresh is what does for me.
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The portable jug would allow you to use the tote dumps and not have to wait in line or move the van.
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$50 for a 5 gallon jug? Ouch.

Dumping isn't what takes a lot of time anyway. Refilling fresh is what does for me.
What? I paid $15 to fill my TT with water and dump. About 1 mile north of town on east side of AZ 95
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I could probably rig up a $15 6-7 water jug from Wal-mart for grey water vs paying $50 for that overpriced piece of junk. They sell the 10-11 gallon ones for RV use for only $15-20 more! $50 is WAY over priced for that thing. It should be priced around $30-35.

Maybe fresh water filling will be a bit better now. I went back and removed 4" excess of the ribbed water fill hose from the filler to the tank. I replaced the hose a while back for good measure (vs trying to clean the old one) and I left an excess amount of hose thinking it was a good idea.

Now it's 4" shorter so it has 4" less bend to go around to get to the tank. I also propped up the hose better so it may drain into the tank better. Maybe it will fill and vent better. It certainly can't be any worse.
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I could probably rig up a $15 6-7 water jug from Wal-mart for grey water vs paying $50 for that overpriced piece of junk. They sell the 10-11 gallon ones for RV use for only $15-20 more! $50 is WAY over priced for that thing. It should be priced around $30-35.

Maybe fresh water filling will be a bit better now. I went back and removed 4" excess of the ribbed water fill hose from the filler to the tank. I replaced the hose a while back for good measure (vs trying to clean the old one) and I left an excess amount of hose thinking it was a good idea.

Now it's 4" shorter so it has 4" less bend to go around to get to the tank. I also propped up the hose better so it may drain into the tank better. Maybe it will fill and vent better. It certainly can't be any worse.
A couple things if I may, look @ Fleetfarm they have water jugs, I got a 6 (thin plastic) and a 7 gal ( thick plastic)and the 7 gal has a spicket to dispense the water. the 6 just a wide mouth cap. I think, I didn't pay more than 20 bucks for both. Since we will be leaving the S&B sometime in Jan we will fill them at home to get us down there. I've yet to shower in the MH always used the camp sites. But we got her fixed so I will be testing it out. Unless I am sweating like a pig I plan on just a wash cloth bath for the most part. Wouldn't that work also? Are you there now?
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You can get 6-7 gallon water jugs from Wal-Mart for around $10-15. I had the blue square one once and even fixed it up so it could accept a garden hose to fill or empty for the old Shasta trailer I had at the time that had NO grey water storage. (60s model, you just dumped to ground then.. it never had grey water storage, only black).

I might get one of those again and fix it like I did before. It's a pain in the ass to carry when full, however. Unless I had a cart or something to haul it on, it would be more work than to just drive the van to go dump.

I've decided to forget "normal" showering and just get a 5 gallon camp shower that solar heats. 5 gallons should be plenty for me to shower with. I'll also heat up a bit of water on the stove to near boiling then mix it with some cold tap for in a spray bottle for extra rinsing ability. The tiny sink in the bathroom can be filled for sponge bathing too. Then I might use 6 gallons total.

My grey water capacity is 22 gallons by the way.
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You can get 6-7 gallon water jugs from Wal-Mart for around $10-15. I had the blue square one once and even fixed it up so it could accept a garden hose to fill or empty for the old Shasta trailer I had at the time that had NO grey water storage. (60s model, you just dumped to ground then.. it never had grey water storage, only black).

I might get one of those again and fix it like I did before. It's a pain in the ass to carry when full, however. Unless I had a cart or something to haul it on, it would be more work than to just drive the van to go dump.

I've decided to forget "normal" showering and just get a 5 gallon camp shower that solar heats. 5 gallons should be plenty for me to shower with. I'll also heat up a bit of water on the stove to near boiling then mix it with some cold tap for in a spray bottle for extra rinsing ability. The tiny sink in the bathroom can be filled for sponge bathing too. Then I might use 6 gallons total.

My grey water capacity is 22 gallons by the way.
I have a really bad back (chronic) so I cheat and put the tank on the top step inside the MH then fill it and slide it to the rear of the couch. My partner and I both lift it to the counter top when needed.
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FYI, We are headed to Q in January and were able to find a FHU site yesterday. Most are booked but there are a few available. Safe Travels!
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What kind of rent is it? heh
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