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Old 03-04-2011, 04:36 AM   #155
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THIS IS A GREAT SITE TO CHECK ON THE STATE TO STATE LAWS ON HAND GUNS. JUST CLICK ON THE STATE YOU LIVE IN......

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There is a misconception that a shotgun is a scatter gun and that aim is not important.

In the confines of a RV, the pattern from a shot gun will not be more than a few inches in diameter at best.
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There is a misconception that a shotgun is a scatter gun and that aim is not important.

In the confines of a RV, the pattern from a shot gun will not be more than a few inches in diameter at best.
Agreed; Thats why I opted for the Taurus 4510. as opposed to a full sized shotgun. Easier to handle in the confines of a motorhome and patterns 18"-20" at 20 ft.
But I will also add that for the person that does not want to spend $500. or more for a personal defense weapon, and dedicate the time and expense of learning to handle a handgun, an inexpensive shotgun in the shorter barrel lengths would be a much better choice. A 2"-3" pattern is larger than 9MM or .45.
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My Mossburg 500 pistol grip also has a full size stock that can be interchanged. It requires an an allan wrench, and a 12" screwdriver and takes about 5 minutes to change. I have shot skeet with it. I still think the racking sound of a shotgun goes a long way to scaring off any intruder.
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Any gunsmith can cut down a 12 gauge to the shortest legal length allowed. Mine is very easy to get around in confined areas. Remember " BOOM", halt or I'll shoot.
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Any gunsmith can cut down a 12 gauge to the shortest legal length allowed. Mine is very easy to get around in confined areas. Remember " BOOM", halt or I'll shoot.
You have the right idea, and you don't have to worry about bullets flying everywhere.
Dont even need a gunsmith,just a hacksaw.
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Any gunsmith can cut down a 12 gauge to the shortest legal length allowed. Mine is very easy to get around in confined areas. Remember " BOOM", halt or I'll shoot.
The minimum legal barrel length is 18".

Still not short enough to make much difference.
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Another one of those federal laws that are behind the times. The 4510 will fire 2 1/2" or 3" shotshells or .45 long colt with 3" or 6" barrel. It must not be classified as a shotgun by federal law. I coud not find any reference to it. Makes me wonder what constitutes a shotgun by federal standards. I always thought of a .410 as a shotgun.
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I`m sure part of the definition of a shotgun is the lack of rifling.

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Another one of those federal laws that are behind the times. The 4510 will fire 2 1/2" or 3" shotshells or .45 long colt with 3" or 6" barrel. It must not be classified as a shotgun by federal law. I coud not find any reference to it. Makes me wonder what constitutes a shotgun by federal standards. I always thought of a .410 as a shotgun.
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I agree that would be a part of the reasoning but there are full sized shotguns with rifed barrels that are capable of shooting either. Just curious.
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The minimum legal barrel length is 18".

Still not short enough to make much difference.
Makes a BIG difference.
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While doing some research I found that the Taurus 4510 is illegal in Ca. as it is considered a shotgun.
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By definition a shotgun is a smooth-bore barrel, which is why shotgun slugs have "rifling" on them. The http://www.taurususa.com/product-det...ategory=Pistol has a rifled barrel designed to maximize both shells.
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