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Old 06-19-2019, 05:30 PM   #1
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I am a surviving spouse of a combat disabled veteran and receive DIC benefits. Can I stay in military campgrounds? I just purchased my first RV and am excited to start planning my journey.
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I am a surviving spouse of a combat disabled veteran and receive DIC benefits. Can I stay in military campgrounds? I just purchased my first RV and am excited to start planning my journey.

Do you have a military dependents ID card? Its DD Form 1173. If you do, look on the bottom right lower block of the card face for "Authorized Patronage" and if it shows "MWR" in that block you are good to go.
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I am a surviving spouse of a combat disabled veteran and receive DIC benefits. Can I stay in military campgrounds? I just purchased my first RV and am excited to start planning my journey.
Are you currently authorized to use either or both Commissary and Exchange ?
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Thanks to both skypilot_1 and ret60sp. I do not have a miltary ID card. My husband was rated 90% CRD but his case is under review for 100% CRD It is just taking a long time...years actually. I thought that with 100% I could acquire an ID card so was waiting for progress along that route.
Another thought...I myself worked many 16+ years as Civilian for USAEUR until the base closures hit and receive NAF reitrement benefits. Maybe i could go that route?
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Local commanders have on most bases have some say on who can use their Fam Camps. You might try sending a message to the MWR at the base you would like to stay at with your story and see what they say.
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To view the various famcamp eligibility rules, visit U.S. Military Campgrounds and RV Parks - U.S. Military Campgrounds and RV Parks
Then click of Recreation facilities info, this leads you to all the military famcamps in the U.S.A. and their rules. For instance, here is Ft. Dix U.S. Military Campgrounds and RV Parks - Range 14 Camp

A few base commanders open them to the public, most have strict rules. Since the local base commander is in charge of their MWR program, they set the rules.
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is your husband passed or still alive? I ask because your answer above hinted he was alive, but you cannot receive DIC if he is alive. not trying to be insensitive. just clear


VA will not normally change ratings on a person that is deceased, but if he is awarded 100%DAV then you can take his award letter to any base and get an id card that will allow you to use the PX/exchange, commissary and all MWR services, including the camp grounds.

If he is still at any rating below 100 then the answer s NO. The law recently changed to allow 100% DAV to use the above amenities.
and yes you can call the mwr at the base you desire to visit and see if they will allow you to stay. NAS Corps Christi has a few civilians at its RV park that are not normally eligible.
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My husband passed away in 2016 and is buried in Arlington. I receive DIC based on his rating of 90% and a death due to a combat related disability. I received a notification from VA a few months ago that there was a pending claim for unemployability in their system before his passing that was not considered in his rating. So we start again. Maybe he gets 100, maybe not. I am not holding my breath, but sometimes things go right. In the meantime, a call to the commander is a great idea. Thanks to all for suggesting that.
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is your husband passed or still alive? I ask because your answer above hinted he was alive, but you cannot receive DIC if he is alive. not trying to be insensitive. just clear


VA will not normally change ratings on a person that is deceased, but if he is awarded 100%DAV then you can take his award letter to any base and get an id card that will allow you to use the PX/exchange, commissary and all MWR services, including the camp grounds.

If he is still at any rating below 100 then the answer s NO. The law recently changed to allow 100% DAV to use the above amenities.
and yes you can call the mwr at the base you desire to visit and see if they will allow you to stay. NAS Corps Christi has a few civilians at its RV park that are not normally eligible.
100% DAV has been able to use above amenities for years. Law changed recently to allow them to fly space A.
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Jan 1 2020 many new veterans are allowed, not just 100%


https://www.congress.gov/115/bills/h...5hr5515enr.pdf
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Thank you!

Plowing through this document was a job.
SEC. 621. EXTENSION OF CERTAIN MORALE, WELFARE, AND RECREATION PRIVILEGES TO CERTAIN VETERANS AND THEIR CAREGIVERS.
(a) SHORT TITLE.—This section may be cited as the ‘‘Purple Heart and Disabled Veterans Equal Access Act of 2018’’.
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There was a good writeup on Military.com about a month ago about this.

https://www.militarytimes.com/pay-be...ping-benefits/
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Jan 1 2020 many new veterans are allowed, not just 100%


https://www.congress.gov/115/bills/h...5hr5515enr.pdf



Before anyone gets overly excited and starts making travel plans, just make sure that you understand that "Space A" means there is a list of more important categories of personnel that are ahead of a veteran's category and the chances of being able to actually get a seat on a flight to your destination is hit and miss at best. Do not expect to walk into a MAC/AMC terminal with your bags and leave on the same day, or the next day, or the next day, or even that same week.


I'm retired US Army, and we have traveled and used MAC/AMC and the MWR system when it randomly worked into our travel plans, but we ALWAYS had the cash on hand to be able to purchase commercial tickets to our destination.


If someone wants to use the MWR system for Rv'ing that stands a much better chance of being an option because the Campground MWR facilities (so far) doesn't have a "category" where a card holder is discriminated and can get "bumped" by someone else. The IHG and Navy Gateway hotels on the other hand do indeed have and use "categories" and they will bump leisure travel (retirees and veteran card holders) from a stay at one of their facilities if an active duty or active Reserve person shows up and needs a place to stay.



So my point here is those who might want to use MWR facilities need to understand the rules before they attempt to make a reservation, and expect that a Category 5+ person might have to call them on the day they want to stay and not be able to call before that for a reservation.


For those who like to plan their trips and have actual "reservations" before hitting the road, the retiree and veteran benefits are hit and miss and very frustrating for anyone with a planning personality.


Just so you know. Otherwise its a great deal and we love staying on military campgrounds and traveling "space available" when possible.
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"If someone wants to use the MWR system for Rv'ing that stands a much better chance of being an option because the Campground MWR facilities (so far) doesn't have a "category" where a card holder is discriminated and can get "bumped" by someone else. "

You need to check out Patrick AFB. They have posted in famcamp office the list of the commands priority user categories. If I recall correctly it has 25 categories.

As you pointed out this bill goes into effect 1/1/2020.

MANY VETERANS GAIN ACCESS TO MWR FACILITIES
��Active duty, retired military, and 100% DAV were the primary users that were authorized to utilize MWR facilities (includes campgrounds). However, this all changes soon. The Purple Heart and Disabled Veterans Equal Access Act of 2018 became law in August 2018 and will take effect on January 1st, 2020. This bill will now allow the following veterans use of commissary and exchange stores, and MWR facilities:
+Veterans Awarded the Purple Heart
+Veterans Who Are Former Prisoners of War
+Veterans With Service-Connected Disabilities (no min rating)...ALL
+Caregivers of Veterans
Should have an impact on famcamp availability in future. This would include every vet with a VA 10% rated hearing loss. How many thousands are out there ?
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