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Old 10-12-2016, 03:53 PM   #1
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Who's Not a Veteran

Interesting, didn't know this.
Congress has defined “veteran” to mean a person “who served in the active military, naval, or air service, and who was
discharged or released therefrom under conditions other than dishonorable.” (38 USC § 101(2)) While Reserve and National
Guard members without active military service do not meet the legal definition of a veteran, generally, all National Guard and
Reserve members qualify for some (VA) benefits. The length of your Reserve or National Guard service commitment and/or your
duty status may determine your eligibility for specific benefits.

"As a retired National Guard member with a 20-year letter and no active duty time, I am not considered a veteran and
not to be recognized as such."

VA pamphlet titled “Summary of VA Benefits for National Guard and Reserve
Members and Veterans. "
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"As a retired National Guard member with a 20-year letter and no active duty time, I am not considered a veteran and
not to be recognized as such."

VA pamphlet titled “Summary of VA Benefits for National Guard and Reserve
Members and Veterans. "

I have 2 brothers in the Texas National Guard. Between them they have 7 years of active duty (Iraq and Afghanistan). How did you do 20 years and never activated? I don't mean this in a bad thing. You should be considered a Veteren with full VA benifits. Thank you for you service!
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Not me, but a quote from a weekend whatever they call them. I just thought it interesting that our sorry elected "leaders" didn't think a reservist should be classified as a "veteran". I started before the Cuban thing and ended flying gunships in Panama. Most of the guard folks I worked with never expected to get called up...just wanted to take the $$, bennies and run.
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Not me, but a quote from a weekend whatever they call them. I just thought it interesting that our sorry elected "leaders" didn't think a reservist should be classified as a "veteran". I started before the Cuban thing and ended flying gunships in Panama. Most of the guard folks I worked with never expected to get called up...just wanted to take the $$, bennies and run.
I might be mistaken but I thought if you were brought on Active Duty for over 180 days you were a Veteran with full VA benefits.
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That's alright, when we came home from active duty in Viet Nam, we were not allowed to join the American Legion because it was not a declared war. For all the benefits I have received, I may as well not been a veteran.
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I might be mistaken but I thought if you were brought on Active Duty for over 180 days you were a Veteran with full VA benefits.
Yes "active duty" that is correct, but that is not the point here. What is, is you can do 30 yrs in the guard/reserves and not get VA official veterans status. just sayn
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That really sucks, I was regular army, enlisted in 1965 right out of high school. Spent 2 years 9 months 4 days with an Honorable Discharge.

Don't really see why I am more of a veteran than one who spent 20 years as a reservist or guard member.
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When I went on Active Duty in 69 I was told that you must complete 18 months on active duty to receive VA benefits.
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Also, I heard that <1% of the population are veterans. I would think that would be higher.
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Also, I heard that <1% of the population are veterans. I would think that would be higher.

"As of 2014, the VA estimates there were 22 million military veterans in the U.S. population. If you add their figures on veterans to the active personnel numbers, 7.3 percent of all living Americans have served in the military at some point in their lives."


So, it depends on how you count but it is far more than 1%.
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Since WWII the greatest vet % of the U.S. pop. was the 1970 census of 13.8 %.
The most recent data from the 2010 Census shows that only seven percent of Americans have served in the military, while veterans make up 20 percent of the current Congress. In 1971, 73 percent of members of Congress were veterans, but veterans made up fewer than 15 percent of the American population. Nov 11, 2014. Sorta shows how much greater the brainwashing has gottin in today's military. Just sayn
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"As of 2014, the VA estimates there were 22 million military veterans in the U.S. population. If you add their figures on veterans to the active personnel numbers, 7.3 percent of all living Americans have served in the military at some point in their lives."


So, it depends on how you count but it is far more than 1%.
In my opinion everyone that's able should have to serve, at least two years, between the age of 18 and 25.
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I was in the Army National Guard for 4 years and didn't qualify for benefits because my time on active duty for training was less than the required time to qualify. Then LBJ got the big idea to activate some reserve units for Vietnam and poof, 2 years later I qualified for VA benefits. It's all about your time on federal active duty and the date (pre or post 1980) you enlisted.
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