iRV2 Forums

iRV2 Forums (http://www.irv2.com/forums/)
-   Trailer Towing and Tow Vehicles Discussion (http://www.irv2.com/forums/f45/)
-   -   Ram 1500 towing question (http://www.irv2.com/forums/f45/ram-1500-towing-question-189740.html)

Lori Meyer 01-15-2014 04:15 PM

Ram 1500 towing question
 
Hey guys,

We chose our TT and it weighs 7800 lbs. We're looking at the Ram 1500, 5.7-liter V8, crew cab, short bed, 2WD, 17-inch wheels, 3.92:1 axle that has a tow capacity of 10,200 lbs.

I haven't crunched the numbers yet but would this truck pull this TT if equipped with a WDH and trailer brakes?

We'll be packing about 500 lbs. into the TT and empty tanks.

Thanks for your input.

FamFun4 u 01-15-2014 06:48 PM

Is the trailor weight from the manufacturer or did you take it to a scale and weigh it?
If you only load 500 lbs then the trailor would go up to 8300. You should be ok.

FamFun4 u 01-15-2014 06:49 PM

Ps. I personally would use the WDH. Helps with handling and ride comfort

tuffr2 01-15-2014 08:10 PM

That is actually kind of big/heavy for just a 1/2 ton truck. You will for sure know you are towing and the trailer may wag the truck. If I did not already have the truck I would look for a 3/4 ton truck.

jesilvas 01-16-2014 08:33 AM

If that is 7800lbs EMPTY, then it may be 10k lbs full, so NO. I would NOT pull it with any half ton.

gap23 01-16-2014 09:23 AM

I think you will be good. add a sway control to the weight distribution hitch for safety.

RustyJC 01-16-2014 09:47 AM

Is the 7800 lbs dry weight, GVWR or ???? Without knowing that information, we really can't give you a good answer.

Rusty

Cumminsfan 01-16-2014 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jesilvas (Post 1886311)
If that is 7800lbs EMPTY, then it may be 10k lbs full, so NO. I would NOT pull it with any half ton.

Really? She just said she is only putting 500lbs into it. Where's the other 1700lbs coming from?

Cumminsfan 01-16-2014 10:33 AM

My guess is that the 7800lbs will be close to 8500 if you're only putting 500lbs in it. Which in most cases is a low number. The average is more around the 1000lb range. If this is your 1st TT or RV then you will be pleasantly surprised at how much stuff you will bring. I thought the same thing too when we bought our 1st TT.
But IMO that TT is too much for a 1/2 ton like the Ram. Payload will be you're next issue. Rams are inherently low on payload.
8500lbs equates to a tongue weight of apr 1050lbs. Probably max on your receiver. Take that 1050lbs and subtract that from the trucks payload number which in Rams case is around 1400lbs on average. Now you have 350lbs for passengers and any cargo you put in the truck.
Those numbers could be off a bit but you get the idea. When shopping for a truck you need to look at the max tow rating and also the payload rating. The payload rating is listed on the trucks door under 'cargo'. Or something similar.
Also remember that the fancier the truck, i.e. Laramie, then the lower the cargo rating.
IMO you need to get a bigger truck or lighter TT.

Also the TT will have a sticker on it from the factory that lists the dry weight. Normally that doesn't include batteries, propane and such. If you're looking on line at weights then those will be lighter than what actually shows up in the TT's sticker. If you're shopping at a dealer then by all means look for the weight sticker. Most of the sticker placement I've seen lately is on the entry door.
Take your time and think all this through. Sounds like you're on the right track by picking the TT 1st then matching the truck to it.
And last of all don't listen to RV or truck sales people. Most are just trying to make a sale. Some are better than others.

Lori Meyer 01-16-2014 10:51 AM

Thanks everyone and especially Cumminsfan. Great information and very helpful.

It's been a long and arduous decision and I believe we've chosen our TT, a 2014 Forest River Salem Hemisphere 292FK, 7,030 lbs. (800 lbs. less than the one we thought we'd get), 990 lb. hitch and 2,701 carrying capacity.

Now I'm need to run some numbers and see what I can come up with for the truck. I hope an F150 5.7L V8 3.92 axle will be enough (10,350 towing capacity).

This will be our 2nd TT and we're definitely going up in size on this one.

Thanks so much guys.

tuffr2 01-16-2014 10:57 AM

I want to add - the Ford F-150 optioned with heavy duty this and heavy duty that and Eco-Boost engine can tow 11,300 lbs.

That is really bogus when it comes to campers. A 1/2 ton truck weighs 5,700 lbs. It can not pull a 9,000lb box thru the air. It can however tow a flat cargo trailer with 9,000 lbs. of steel rods for example. If the trailer will not catch any wind then yes, it can tow close to the advertised weight.

Someone wrote a good reply once that has stuck with me about advertised towing. It basically said you can tow a farm wagon loaded with hay weighing 11,000lbs out of the hayfield with a 1/2 ton truck. But that does not mean you can tow a 11,000lb camper type trailer down the highway with a 1/2 ton truck.

jesilvas 01-16-2014 10:57 AM

7030 then is the dry weight. So you need a truck that will handle the GVWR, or the max the trailer is rated to carry. Which is 7030 + 2701 = 9731.
From the GVWR of 9731, you can safely guess 15% of GVWR for max tongue weight of around 1500lbs.
Using those two numbers, you can decide what truck to get. You're up near the max of all half tons.

Lori Meyer 01-16-2014 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jesilvas (Post 1886497)
7030 then is the dry weight. So you need a truck that will handle the GVWR, or the max the trailer is rated to carry. Which is 7030 + 2701 = 9731.
From the GVWR of 9731, you can safely guess 15% of GVWR for max tongue weight of around 1500lbs.
Using those two numbers, you can decide what truck to get. You're up near the max of all half tons.


Yes, we'd be up near the max but we have about 500 lbs. of stuff that we'll take with us and we'll be traveling with empty tanks so we won't be anywhere near the 2,701 lbs. I'm going to see what I can find and crunch some numbers. Thanks for your input!

Trudif 01-16-2014 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lori Meyer (Post 1885550)
Hey guys,

We chose our TT and it weighs 7800 lbs. We're looking at the Ram 1500, 5.7-liter V8, crew cab, short bed, 2WD, 17-inch wheels, 3.92:1 axle that has a tow capacity of 10,200 lbs.

I haven't crunched the numbers yet but would this truck pull this TT if equipped with a WDH and trailer brakes?

We'll be packing about 500 lbs. into the TT and empty tanks.

Thanks for your input.

You are better off with a 3/4 ton Hemi, gas or yet a diesel is the best, the 1500 is going to be dragging up grades. We have owned many 5th & TT and 1500 for about 8,000 lbs will give it a work out. If you can afford it go bigger.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:33 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.