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bajarat 11-08-2014 12:00 PM

Can't Get Local OTA Channels Without Hooking Up Dish Tailgater?
 
I realize that in order to get local OTA channels when traveling, Dish has you go to the Menu and scan for local OTC channels. But my problem is, I don't want to set up the tailgater when in a city with 50 digital OTA channels are available. What I have resorted to doing is disconnecting the antenna feed from my Dish receiver and going directly into the ANT In on my TV which is a PITA.

So, yes, I have my roof Ant into to the ANT IN on the back of my receiver and an HDMI cable to my TV. However as I mentioned above, the only time I can get local OTA channels is to:

Place Tailgater outside
Point Tailgater South and receive Dish SAT programming fine
Go to Menu and select scan for local OTA channels
Local channels are scanned and a list is then displayed on the Dish Menu Local Channel List.

Do you have to set up the Tailgater, etc just to get local OTA channels or can I simply just hook up the Tailgater to the receiver without going through the SAT acquisition process?

Thx for any help on this!

mel s 11-08-2014 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bajarat (Post 2302296)
I realize that in order to get local OTA channels when traveling, Dish has you go to the Menu and scan for local OTC channels. But my problem is, I don't want to set up the tailgater when in a city with 50 digital OTA channels are available. What I have resorted to doing is disconnecting the antenna feed from my Dish receiver and going directly into the ANT In on my TV which is a PITA.

bajarat
I get OTA, (Over The Air), television station broadcasts via my roof top TV antenna.
If/when "correctly connected" to the Dish receiver and then to the TV set... the Tailgater has nothing to do with OTA TV reception.
Mel
'96 Safari

Harry B 11-08-2014 03:44 PM

You removed the OTA antenna from your dish receiver. That halts getting any OTA Reception via the Dish receiver.
What you could do is put in a DC passthrough splitter and connect the OTA antenna to both devices to accomplish what you want to do.
Home depot has them. Make sure they say DC passthrough on both legs on the label.

dvmweb 11-08-2014 04:14 PM

Our sat, direct tv, is on one hdmi, the dvd player is on another hdmi, and the ota antennae is on a coax. All going into the back of the tv. Using the remote, you choose which input.


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wa8yxm 11-08-2014 04:33 PM

For local OTA you must
1: connect your OTA antenna to the DISH receiver (My #1 guess) I would use the lead marked "TO VCR" to do that, then choose ANT for the VCR on your box of buttons.

2: you must Activate the antenna (Turn it on) Power switch on the box of buttons or the switch on a wall plate.

3: Raise the antenna

4: AIM

To Aim, I recommend an upgrade or two to the antenna.
Upgrade 1: if you do not already have it is the wingman (This assumes you have a "Batwing" Winegard sensar II or III.

Upgrade 2 is the Sensar Pro module (Goes indoors) this makes aiming much easier.

If you need install instrucitons, tell me if you have a wall plate or a box of buttons. (it makes a difference) (NOTE: job is easier if you have a box of buttons or rather results are better)

Instructions on request.

bdickson 11-08-2014 04:34 PM

We don't use the OTA antenna for local stations. We just call Dish Mobile Support and give them our Zip Code. Within 20 minutes we have all the locals via satellite.

mel s 11-08-2014 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdickson (Post 2302551)
We don't use the OTA antenna for local stations. We just call Dish Mobile Support and give them our Zip Code. Within 20 minutes we have all the locals via satellite.

bdickson
Calling Dish Mobile Support and giving them the zip code of each different place you stop MAY be worth the hassle...but only if you're satisfied with ONLY SOME of the local channels!
Since Dish seldom offers "all the locals" in an area.....to get all the local channels, (on the TV in your RV), in many (most?) places you have to use an OTA antenna.

Using your OTA antenna is "hassle free" and usually yields more channels...AND you don't need to know the zip code of your stop, (which is especially nice while traveling)... PLUS NO phone call is necessary.

Mel
'96 Safari

Mzbrandi 11-08-2014 06:47 PM

I think, to get the channel guide, the sat needs to be hooked up. I don't think the receiver understands you don't want to hook up the sat. Just my thoughts.

Brandi


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Stickdog 11-08-2014 07:03 PM

I don't know what the tailgator has to do with local channels. We use both depending where we are. I do have to raise the antenna, set the TV to ANT, go to menu and scan local stations and adjust antenna for best reception. Done! Good to make sure the ANT booster is on.

Davdeb1 11-08-2014 07:08 PM

In my 14 year old MH, I got rid of the "BOMB" and disconnected the amplifier. I did this because the cable connection to my 18 month old Vizio broke. Instead of repairing the TV I bought a tuner with a PVR for $35. I get many more stations than I did last year on the road, and I can record some OTA stuff on a flash drive I plug into it. Right now I'm in Tucson getting 32 stations. Couldn't do that last year.

I have a tailgater, and many times just stopping for the night you don't want to pull it out. I only call dish and change the local stations twice a year.

firedoc 11-08-2014 09:20 PM

In addition the HD is higher quality on your OTA antenna than you will get from your Dish locals (the ones beamed to you)

wva3185 11-09-2014 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bajarat (Post 2302296)
I realize that in order to get local OTA channels when traveling, Dish has you go to the Menu and scan for local OTC channels. But my problem is, I don't want to set up the tailgater when in a city with 50 digital OTA channels are available. What I have resorted to doing is disconnecting the antenna feed from my Dish receiver and going directly into the ANT In on my TV which is a PITA.

So, yes, I have my roof Ant into to the ANT IN on the back of my receiver and an HDMI cable to my TV. However as I mentioned above, the only time I can get local OTA channels is to:

Place Tailgater outside
Point Tailgater South and receive Dish SAT programming fine
Go to Menu and select scan for local OTA channels
Local channels are scanned and a list is then displayed on the Dish Menu Local Channel List.

Do you have to set up the Tailgater, etc just to get local OTA channels or can I simply just hook up the Tailgater to the receiver without going through the SAT acquisition process?

Thx for any help on this!

I am going to make a couple of assumptions here. I am guessing that you have either a Vip211k Dish receiver or a Vip211z with the necessary dongle to get the OTA channels. I have read several of the responses on this topic and might I suggest you consider what I do.

I have my Vip211k attached to the LR TV via HDMI. I have a piece of RG6 coaxial attached to the Vip211k and I have one of the push on quick connects on the other end of the coaxial. Then I have another piece of coaxial cable attached to the TV and the other end has a quick connect on it as well. While in transit I take the receiver coax off the antenna output and attach the TV coaxial to the antenna output on the wall plate; set the TV to air/antenna and scan for the channels. That way the Tailgater remains packed away. You will have to rescan if you move to another area before you reach your destination. Then when I get to my destination I set up the Tailgater and call Dish. Hopefully you will get a rep like I did on the second try that will change the service address for you. The first rep scheduled a tech to come to the site and change the "orbital"...whatever that is.

To answer your question though is you will have to get the Tailgater out and get a signal to get to the menu that would allow you to scan for the OTA channels assuming that you have the Dish receiver antenna input attached to your antenna output. I tried it without the Tailgater attached and all the receiver did was sit there and try to do its setup routine. After 15 minutes I forgot about getting the OTA channels with the Dish receiver while in transit.

In response to someone else's comment regarding the program guide, you only get the guide when you have the local channels beamed to you through the Tailgater/receiver. If you just scan for the locals the only thing that shows on the Dish program guide is "Local Digital Signal"...no clue as to what happens to be showing in the area/time you are watching.

The comment about fewer local channels and picture quality through Dish is correct. Dish does not beam the sub channels and I believe that they are SD as well.

Davdeb1 11-09-2014 08:11 PM

I know I shared this already. Here is a tuner I used. All this hooking and unhooking is hard on a TV, plus the movement of a TV when its on a swing Arm puts pressure on the TV inputs. I found sound 8 inch HDMI extenders and put them on every HDMI connection I have. Then I used this tuner.
Mediasonic HW-150PVR HomeWorx ATSC Digital TV Converter Box with Media Player and Recording PVR Function/HDMI Out (Black). I
It was cheaper, is now $37


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