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footdoc 09-02-2006 05:53 AM

I like to do my own service and TRIED to drain the oil on my virgin 7500 gen...some gorilla at Onan probably put the drain plug in with an air wrench PLUS used thread sealer!! I could NOT remove the plug, which seems like its made of pot metal..actually broke a tool attempting to do so..rolled it over to my local shop where a seasoned mechanic got it off...He replaced that plug with a radiator drain pitcock valve...same size threads as the oil plug...now I won't have to worry about wrestling with that original plug...only downside I can see is slower draining, but 3 qts is no biggie..dont think I would want to tie up a day to drain the coach engine!

footdoc 09-02-2006 05:53 AM

I like to do my own service and TRIED to drain the oil on my virgin 7500 gen...some gorilla at Onan probably put the drain plug in with an air wrench PLUS used thread sealer!! I could NOT remove the plug, which seems like its made of pot metal..actually broke a tool attempting to do so..rolled it over to my local shop where a seasoned mechanic got it off...He replaced that plug with a radiator drain pitcock valve...same size threads as the oil plug...now I won't have to worry about wrestling with that original plug...only downside I can see is slower draining, but 3 qts is no biggie..dont think I would want to tie up a day to drain the coach engine!

Lug_Nut 09-02-2006 06:30 AM

Next oil change on the 7500 QD you night want to clean out the spark arrestor. You need a long extention on your rachet to remove the plug. When putting the plug back in put something in the bottom of the socket to hold the plug threads well out of it so you can start the threads as you can not get your hand up between the engine and generator.

Ed-Deb 09-02-2006 09:07 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Lug_Nut:
Next oil change on the 7500 QD you night want to clean out the spark arrestor. You need a long extention on your rachet to remove the plug. When putting the plug back in put something in the bottom of the socket to hold the plug threads well out of it so you can start the threads as you can not get your hand up between the engine and generator. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Where is the spark arrestor? Is it in-line with the exhaust pipe? Your post got me thinking...my generator (300 hours) overheated and shut down. My brother commented on the exhaust sound prior to this occurring and stated that it sounded plugged. If the spark arrestor was plugged would this cause an overheat condition?

Lug_Nut 09-02-2006 09:15 AM

The exhaust spark arrester is located near the middle accessed directly from beneath. Remove the access cover and refer to the manual. It is a bolt type plug (I forget what size) located about 6" up in the machinery. You will need an extention on your ratchet. Remove the plug (better wear glasses as carbon will fall out when you pull it out. Run the genset under load with the plug out to clean it.
Yes if it were plugged it could cause both smoking and running hot.

Hope this helps.

Ed-Deb 09-02-2006 09:54 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Lug_Nut:
The exhaust spark arrester is located near the middle accessed directly from beneath. Remove the access cover and refer to the manual. It is a bolt type plug (I forget what size) located about 6" up in the machinery. You will need an extention on your ratchet. Remove the plug (better wear glasses as carbon will fall out when you pull it out. Run the genset under load with the plug out to clean it.
Yes if it were plugged it could cause both smoking and running hot.

Hope this helps. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Thanks for the response LugNut. I went out and looked and discovered that the (one of two) fanbelt has shredded and broken. I can't see an easy way to get another one back on there! (This does not have a slide out tray for the generator).

Ed

"007" 09-02-2006 10:50 AM

Do you have any screws on screen vent panel under GEN to access your fan belts? Not sure your bottom plate is removeable but you might check it out. http://irv2.infopop.cc/groupee_commo...icon_smile.gif
Is it a Onan or Genset?
Spark arrester is in the end of the tail pipe on Genset.

Ed-Deb 09-03-2006 06:58 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by "007":
Do you have any screws on screen vent panel under GEN to access your fan belts? Not sure your bottom plate is removeable but you might check it out. http://irv2.infopop.cc/groupee_commo...icon_smile.gif
Is it a Onan or Genset?
Spark arrester is in the end of the tail pipe on Genset. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


007,

It is an 8kw Power Tech generator with a Kubota engine. I have one of the covers off the bottom and can see the fan belt pulleys (one upper and one lower) but cannot reach in there or see what gets loosened to put on a new one.

http://irv2.infopop.cc/images/smash.gif http://irv2.infopop.cc/images/aeh.gif

"007" 09-03-2006 08:34 AM

This is why we need a forum dedicated to just "GENERATORS". http://irv2.infopop.cc/images/thumb.gif

You should check your reading material for Gen, but if nothing, if you can turn the pulley wheel and pull on fan belt you may be able to pop it off pulley wheel. Do in reverse to get it on. If there is a idler pulley loosen that first.
If all else call MFG first.
Hope for you its the bottom belt. http://irv2.infopop.cc/images/newbluesweatdrop.gif

jeeprubi 09-03-2006 06:50 PM

Footdoc, I had the same problem on mine. I was about to head to the FMCA rally in Charlotte and needed to change my oil for the first time. I started the Gen to let it warm up. Went inside and noticed the voltmeter was pegged high. I measured it and it was 142 volts. I shut it down and called Newmar to find a place to get it fixed. I thought I would go ahead and change the oil, but like you, could not get the plug loose. I decided to let whoever fixed by Gen to also change the oil. He had a hard time with it also. The high voltage problem was the voltage regulator and they put on a new one. Off we went to the FMCA Rally to play in the mud.


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