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Balladeer 11-12-2019 11:55 AM

Girard awning stablization
 
Good morning,
I saw the "Carefree" awning stabilizer kit on line and was wondering if anyone has tried this and to what, if any, success for our Girard Awnings?

Many thanks in advance...Gregg

redbaron73 11-12-2019 12:28 PM

I looked at doing a retrofit, but determined the arms are not strong enough for this. There is a lot of material that will act as a wind sail, and the pressure would be at the end of the arm. The end result would be a failure of the arm.

These awnings are not meant for wind.

DoggieDaddy 11-12-2019 08:48 PM

Don't use the Girard awnings they are just pricey junk. Found out today that I need to put another $800 plus dollars into these worthless pieces of junk. The rope broke and the stabilizing rod that the rope fits in is to bent to restring. Oh come on!!! $370 to replace the rod and another $400 to install. Really? This is all after replacing lights, arms, and motors plus numerous adjustments. And they are still out of adjustment and to high up on the coach to do any good unless the sun is directly over head. Sorry sir but trying to tie them down is a total waste of effort.

Sorry for the rant but this coach is killing me. The problems never quit.

brobox 11-13-2019 07:18 AM

The Girard awnings are a "buy me" label to be used at RV shows with a controlled environment. They do not work well in an open camping area with anything above a breeze. If you own Girards and use them once in a while, make sure your insurance policy covers awnings damaged by acts of God.

Victory Blue 11-13-2019 07:34 AM

The Girards have been my pet peeve since day 1. We didn't have an RV before the Entegra so I don't have experience with sturdier awnings, but I know what doesn't work. Choosing aesthetics over utility is almost always a mistake.

I have seen Tiffins with Carefree Paramount (link below) awnings that look just like the Girards but are much more robust with much heavier arms. I was parked next to an Allegro Bus in Door County last summer that left the awnings out in conditions I wouldn't even consider for the Girards; they were Carefree Paramounts.

I would like to know if Entegra has considered these and what stops Entegra from using them if they're a superior product. I'm looking forward to asking Pat Carrol this question at the Tampa show in January.

https://www.carefreeofcolorado.com/p...paramount.html

Victory Blue 11-13-2019 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balladeer (Post 5035320)
Good morning,
I saw the "Carefree" awning stabilizer kit on line and was wondering if anyone has tried this and to what, if any, success for our Girard Awnings?

Many thanks in advance...Gregg

Gregg,

I've considered a DIY version of something similar to this. It would certainly widen the operational range of the awnings, and might remove some of the doubt that has all of us leaving our awnings stowed in conditions that the Girards might be fine in. That's my biggest complaint - the actual operational conditions aren't definable so everyone errs on the side of caution. As-is, even in steady light breezes unpredictable gusts may do damage so the awnings remain stowed.

Since the awnings can be blown either up or down rigid arms at the corners are required to stabilize the awnings. But, as someone else already mentioned the awnings are a giant sail so if the awning can't move with the wind the sail force will be transferred to other parts of the awning; it's hard to predict exactly what would fail if the wind got strong enough and the corner tie-downs didn't break.

Gary.Jones 11-13-2019 08:01 AM

I'm an ex-sailor (sailboat captain type) and I depended on a nice wind and a very big chunk of nylon fabric sticking up in the air to get me where I wanted to go. I have crossed the Gulf and out into the Atlantic and have been in several really ruff storms and there were times when I had the one mainsail shortened down to not much more than a human handkerchief to prevent the boat from being overpowered, but still moving forward for steerage, so I know it doesn't take much square footage or yardage of "sail" to move a pretty good size boat through the water..... and the support for my sail on the boat were a thousand times more substantial that the arms and tubes seen on these awnings..... There is no way that those awnings are going to withstand even a moderate breeze at the right angle. The shake sensors are a good idea, but I would not even seriously consider trying to anchor the outer edges to prevent them from moving in a good gust.... the whole system is just not strong enough to take that IMO. My Girards stay "in" unless I am around to watch them, or maximally, they are out 3 or 4 feet to provide "lighting" for outside activity. Just my way of doing things and my tolerance for risk. I have a deep respect for the forces of wind.... :bow:

Gary

gb71631 11-13-2019 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Victory Blue (Post 5036354)
The Girards have been my pet peeve since day 1. We didn't have an RV before the Entegra so I don't have experience with sturdier awnings, but I know what doesn't work. Choosing aesthetics over utility is almost always a mistake.

I have seen Tiffins with Carefree Paramount (link below) awnings that look just like the Girards but are much more robust with much heavier arms. I was parked next to an Allegro Bus in Door County last summer that left the awnings out in conditions I wouldn't even consider for the Girards; they were Carefree Paramounts.

I would like to know if Entegra has considered these and what stops Entegra from using them if they're a superior product. I'm looking forward to asking Pat Carrol this question at the Tampa show in January.

https://www.carefreeofcolorado.com/p...paramount.html

The sad part is Tiffin in now going to Girards too. Girard just opened a service location in Red Bay, AL next to Tiffin to service the facility....


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