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06-16-2021, 10:36 AM
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2005 Voyage 38J - Lost all power to drivers Door
I've lost all the power to my drivers door. No window
control, no mirror control and no overhead curtesy light.
Checked all obvious fuses both inside and on the firewall
but did not find any blown.
Can any one enlighten me as to where the door get's
it's power.
Thanks in advance to this incredible wealth of knowledge.
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06-16-2021, 10:55 AM
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There should be a wiring harness , entering the door at the hinge side , probably in a plastic flex conduit , over time with constant flexing from door opening individual wires inside the conduit can break ; or become disconnected behind a kick panel just in front of the door .
See if there is a panel that can be removed in front of the door opening , to check for a multiple connector . Failing that , the door panel will have to be removed to start testing for power at the individual switches.
Info available from Winnebago for your coach wiring may help. Always nice to have.
http://www.winnebagoind.com/Files/Fi...ram/Wiring.htm
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06-17-2021, 08:05 AM
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Thanks for the reply.
I've got all the panels and wiring harness open - all
connection/wiring look good. All the wires go through
the fire wall, but I can't get at them on the front side.
Using a alternate 12v source, all the appliances work.
Nothing in the wiring harness has power. There has to
be a source of power but I don't seem to find it.
The diagrams don't show where that source is.
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06-17-2021, 09:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dixster
The diagrams don't show where that source is.
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Yes , not unusual for certain items not to be located in the diagrams , as assembly line workers have some leeway as to where to mount depending on floor plan and options; and for some unknown reason coach builders think these things have to be hidden .
Have you found any fuse panels for the chassis or coach ?
What chassis is your Winnebago built on ?
I'll take your coach info to the Winnebago site and see if I can provide any further ideas.
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06-17-2021, 11:44 AM
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By any chance , is the instrument cluster and a section of the top of the dash hinged so it flips up to give access to the fuse boxes ?
Like this picture from a Workhorse chassis Class .A.
One of the diagrams I found on the Winnebago site , had a couple of Winnebago fuse blocks mounted there , on top of the steering column support.
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06-17-2021, 04:44 PM
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Both the engine fire wall fuse panel and the dashboard
fuse panel do not have a fuse labeled for the drivers
door appliances. Checked all visible fuses for continuity,
not finding any tripped/blown fuse.
The door houses power management for the window control,
mirror control, mirror heater and overhead reading light. I
cannot find a fuse that lists any of these.
New problem - connected to 50 amp campground pedestal,
which show correct voltage for each leg (campground just
replaced each breaker for me). Coach seems to be running
on 30 amps through the electrical management system and
will only provide continues power to the front ac. Second ac
runs for just a few minuets and then looses all power. Turn
pedestal breakers off and back on, both ac's start, but second
will loose power after running a short time (5 to 10 minuets).
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06-17-2021, 04:46 PM
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I have the flip up dash board but have only
found one fuse block, which all fuses check
good
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06-17-2021, 05:02 PM
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Did you check the breakers under the entrance steps? I think that's where that power comes from.
I'll check the diagrams tonight and confirm (should be the same as mine, and I've looked at the diagrams MANY times).
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06-17-2021, 08:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dixster
New problem - connected to 50 amp campground pedestal,
which show correct voltage for each leg (campground just
replaced each breaker for me). Coach seems to be running
on 30 amps through the electrical management system and
will only provide continues power to the front ac. Second ac
runs for just a few minuets and then looses all power. Turn
pedestal breakers off and back on, both ac's start, but second
will loose power after running a short time (5 to 10 minuets).
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Sounds like a bad connection in the power post , as soon as there is a load the voltage drops and the coach system thinks your on 30 amps with an adaptor .
Call the park electrician , or change sites.
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06-17-2021, 08:47 PM
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Dang. Looks like they changed something between 2004 and 2005. I have some fuses added by Winnebago under the lift up portion of the dash. Diagrams call the fuses out as being there. On the '05 there's a block called "12V BREAKER" but it doesn't say where it is. Probably under the dash still? I'd still look at the 12V breakers under the step though, just to be sure power nothing is tripped there.
Maybe this will help? He has a 2005 Voyage 38J.
Although his fuses look similar to mine. Same dash. I think yours is different. He does show the step breakers too.
Edit:
Ahhh, there it is. "12V BREAKER" is mounted by your left foot, below the Workhorse fuse panel. I'm thinking you checked those. But that gets it power from a breaker under the step. Found that in the diagram too. I'd be checking there for sure.
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06-29-2021, 05:43 PM
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Drivers door bypassed
Like you on my 38J I could not find why the drivers door was not getting power, (and what a pain when you stopped at toll booths.. good thing I could open the door) after tracing out the wiring and tearing everything apart I ended up bypassing the original power source and using a alternate 12v source to get all the appliances in the door working. Since then I have had no issues. To this day I believe there is something in the steering column that was creating the issue. Good luck
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