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Dlowe · 09-06-2023, 08:35 AM

Has anyone experienced the shower separating from the wall in an Ellipse or Tour 2014 42GD? It’s not making sense. It’s mounted in a fixed position and should not move. Thanks

jaydee325 · 09-06-2023, 11:09 AM

My guess would be water has gotten behind that shower wall causing the substrate to swell and push the shower wall out.

I'd be looking for the source of water leakage.

onebrit · 09-06-2023, 07:08 PM

Following up with previous post, you should look closely for any sign of water leak, get a flashlight and look in the gap to see if any bulging in the outer wall surface. if nonvisible and the separation doesn't appear to be due to water intrusion see if the outer wall pushes back and closes the gap. If it does and you want to try and fix yourself, clean out the Old Glue use a sharp knife and a hacksaw blade to try and get a clean as possible. Go to Lowes or Home Depot or any good hardware store and buy a good quality construction adhesive that is suitable for shower stall installations. I just noticed in the photo that the door is hanging on the wall that the shower wall is attached to, that wall can move if its open on the other side of like into a hallway. I know this as we had issues with our coach from new and they readjusted the wall to make square as our shower doors would not close properly. Before they adjusted the wall there was a gap of about an 1" so the shower door wouldn't close. I would try pushing the wall back towards the tub if it closes the gap then you can reglue and see if you can add additional trim to hold the top of the wall again. Use 2x4 prop put a vertical piece up the wall in line with the shower tub wall gap and then another 2x4 jammed against that until glue is fully cured. I think if what I said is correct it shouldn't be to bigger a problem.
Hope this helps.
Good Luck.
Onebrit

Dlowe · 09-07-2023, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jaydee325

My guess would be water has gotten behind that shower wall causing the substrate to swell and push the shower wall out.

I'd be looking for the source of water leakage.

Thanks, no evidence of a water leak. I have also asked Winnebago, it will be interesting to see what they say. Thanks

onebrit · 09-07-2023, 03:50 PM

Hi
Just to follow up Winnebago may just recommend you take it to an RV repair shop, which is fine but unless you're really lucky they will tie your RV up for quite some time. I would do a little more investigating based on my own experience unless you don't feel comfortable doing it. Try pushing on that wall to see if the gap closes, I'm betting it will. if it does then top wall support screws and bracket have come loose/dropped out. The fix would be as I had suggested pushing the wall back after cleaning all the old glue out and holding it in place while it sets up then look to see how the top of wall was secured.
You may laugh but don't be surprised if the adhesive was all that held the wall, possibly who ever assembled that may have forgot to add additional anchors. It happened on my coach in a few places, and it was brand New.
Good Luck let us know how you make out.
Kindest Regards
Onebrit.

Dlowe · 09-09-2023, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by onebrit

Hi
Just to follow up Winnebago may just recommend you take it to an RV repair shop, which is fine but unless you're really lucky they will tie your RV up for quite some time. I would do a little more investigating based on my own experience unless you don't feel comfortable doing it. Try pushing on that wall to see if the gap closes, I'm betting it will. if it does then top wall support screws and bracket have come loose/dropped out. The fix would be as I had suggested pushing the wall back after cleaning all the old glue out and holding it in place while it sets up then look to see how the top of wall was secured.
You may laugh but don't be surprised if the adhesive was all that held the wall, possibly who ever assembled that may have forgot to add additional anchors. It happened on my coach in a few places, and it was brand New.
Good Luck let us know how you make out.
Kindest Regards
Onebrit.

Thanks, the wall is solid. It will not move. Top of the shower tub will move/push in a little. It feels like it lands firmly on the wall. Still leaves a 3/8” gap to the wall on the upper half of the tub. There was a big chunk of sealant that I removed but it didn't allow full contact.

onebrit · 09-09-2023, 07:53 PM

Thanks for keeping me posted, Okay if the wall is as solid as you say then as you pointed out the shower wall moves, what I would try is use a flashlight and a flat piece of wood that will slide up and down the wall section of the shower too see if you can feel any obstructions that are preventing a full contact. I'm assuming based on what you said that the shower wall flexes fairly easily that's a good thing if it does mean's you're not stressing it too much, what I would look at is the shower door shutting squarely against the shower stall wall. Thats a good indicator because that's how Winnebago tech adjusted our hall wall that supported that shower door frame. Your set up maybe slightly different but the shower door will show you if its square or not, if all else checks out okay and pushing the shower wall flush to the supporting wall shows that the door is no longer square when closed then you can add a filler strip of wood and glue in place as needed. I'm not sure what I'm saying is clear but do a little more checking before giving up, I think you can come up with a good fix just take your time, please keep us up to date with how things are going those shower doors will let you know if you're going in the right direction. That's if they were set up right in the first place.
Good luck.
Onebrit

onebrit · 09-14-2023, 06:21 PM

Following up did Winnebago give you any advise ?
Let us know what course of action you decide on.
Regards
Onebrit

Dlowe · 09-17-2023, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by onebrit

Following up did Winnebago give you any advise ?
Let us know what course of action you decide on.
Regards
Onebrit

Yes, not much help they said clean all the old glue off and reset with liquid nails. Will check plumb today. Seems like we take a trip and something new happens….my wife accidentally laid her iPad on the step cover switch….it no longer works. I tested the switch just now and its fine, it sends power to the motor when told. Removing the cover and replacing the motor on first look doesn’t look any too easy….have you had experience with that? Thanks

Jim_HiTek · 09-17-2023, 10:24 AM

Quick question...is your favorite camping spot at the end of an unimproved road? One where your RV is racked several times during the drive? If so, that could be the cause of your shower stall coming loose from the wall.

Dlowe · 09-17-2023, 11:20 AM

No, all paved and or level….

onebrit · 09-17-2023, 04:41 PM

Hi, thank you for letting us know what Winnebago suggested, just as I thought based on my own experience. While your shower wall looks like a major concern it should turn out just fine, as I had previously mentioned use the shower doors to check for square nice closing fit. if that works out perfectly when wall is pushed back to the sturdy wall it was glued too then that's fine. Just use a good quality construction adhesive and push back tight use a 2x4 and jam it so the shower wall stays until it's fully cured, if the glue squeezes out where you don't want it use recommended clean up method to remove excess. If the shower wall is flush against the outer support wall and is not perfectly square as long as the door is inside the end frame enough a little out of perfect is fine, it will keep water in the shower which is the goal.
Let us know what the end result is just be sure to look and make sure no obstructions that could prevent the wall from getting back where it came from.
Keep us posted.
Kindest Regards
Onebrit.

onebrit · 09-17-2023, 04:56 PM

I have repaired my own step motors, so I do have experience with them, if the switch is fine. Try tapping the motor housing sometimes these DC motors sit on what is called a dead spot on the commutator. Be careful to keep hands and fingers out of the way, safety is key if not sure don't. If no response you need to be sure you're getting voltage to the motor, you can use a test lamp probe or a multi meter be sure to keep away from any pinch points. You can disconnect the step from the drive arm to prevent risk of getting injured prior to working on the motor connections if you're going to attempt this yourself just do everything you can to keep yourself safe. Again, if you're not comfortable doing this don't.
Be safe good luck Onebrit.

Dlowe · 09-18-2023, 09:56 AM

I’ll try it. I have tested and there is power to the motor. It’s an option that really isn't needed. We have yet to use it….on purpose that is. But I like things to work like they are supposed to. I ordered a snake camera that connects to my iPhone to see behind the shower. 24.00……thanks for your help.