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Old 01-19-2020, 11:08 AM   #1
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Forza 34T or Adventurer 36Z?

After 2 years of research, we're down to our short list of 4 Class A coaches, in varying price ranges. We love everything about the Winnebago Adventurer 36Z, and in a perfect world we're pretty sure it's our #1 choice (serious wrench-in-the-works due to a fab conversation with Country Coach owners last night not withstanding...).

However, we've got a nagging dilemma. There is a lot we like about the Winnebago Forza 34T, and it seems we're constantly being told to "go diesel". We know the pros and cons of gas v diesel, so no need for THAT argument here, but we're a bit torn.

We'll be traveling full-time for at least 12 months, probably 18, possibly longer (but at that point we'd consider other coach options). Would you go with the floor plan and features you think you love or would you go for the benefits of a diesel in a coach you could get used to, but without some of the features you think you want (1/2 bath, I'm looking at you...!)?
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Well, we have had our Forza 34T for almost five years now and have loved every bit of it. The air ride and drivability of the diesel sure make it a joy to travel in. We often take our two grandkids with us and have found that the single bath has not been an issue to us (of course, our granddaughter is only 9 and doesn't yet hog the bath for hours at a time).

But rule number one is keep the spouse happy, so choose a floorpan that you both love and put up with the rest.
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We looked at both a year or so ago, really like the Adventurer floor plan. We then did the gas vs. diesel comparison and looked at the Forza, we were underwhelmed by the engine/transmission combo, just not the power we wanted. If you’re traveling through mountains towing a heavy Toad, take a look at the Forza powertrain to ensure you’ll be happy with it, especially if you’re planning on FT.

After further evaluation, we opted for Newmar Bay Star 3609. Ok, not on your list, but the Bay Star has the floor plan, bath and a half & the OCCC we wanted.
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Old 01-20-2020, 02:57 PM   #4
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Thank you for the replies! We're leaning heavily toward the Adventurer, as it has everything we want (at least, everything we think we want) for the time we'll have it. Not ruling out the Forza yet, but all things being equal, we do think the floorplan might make the difference.

Your comments are much appreciated!
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Have you driven them both? If not, you should probably do that. After trying to decide on a gas/diesel, we drove both. We are driving a diesel now.
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We haven't yet driven them yet, but would certainly do so before making a final decision. We know the drive will probably be better with the Forza, though that isn't our only consideration. We still have plenty of time, but these are two of the five we're really interested in.
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Keep in mind the Forza has always been the lowest priced diesel pusher in the WBGO line. We have an Adventurer, mind you it’s one of the last original Adventurers. In 2018 they discontinued the line and in 2019 renamed the lower quality Vista LX as the all new Adventurer.

When we made our decision it was between the lowest cost diesel vs the highest cost gas Class A.

We knew that diesel rode better, but cost more to maintain. We chose the Adventurer and are happy we did.
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That's sort of where we are, creativepart. We'll only have this coach for 1-2 years, so we're not sure how much we really want to invest. We'll also be making a bee-line from Florida to Alaska as our first major stop, so we're mindful of handling and power.

Good to know you like your Adventurer. We'll be buying used, and we're not averse to going back several years. Thank you for the insights!
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That's sort of where we are, creativepart. We'll only have this coach for 1-2 years, so we're not sure how much we really want to invest. We'll also be making a bee-line from Florida to Alaska as our first major stop, so we're mindful of handling and power.

Good to know you like your Adventurer. We'll be buying used, and we're not averse to going back several years. Thank you for the insights!
I don't think you'll have any power issues with the Adventurer. We currently have a 2013 Adventurer 32H, and pull a 2004 Jeep TJ. We headed for Alaska barely a month after we got the coach. We took a few local trips to get over the recommended 1000 mile minimum before towing the Jeep. We left for Alaska with a little over 1,300 miles on the odometer. That trip put on about 12,000 miles. The motorhome had no problems anywhere along the way.

In 2019 we made another trip with the motorhome to Alaska, pulling the same Jeep. This time we only put on about 10,000 miles, and again had no problems. We currently have about 50,000 miles on the motorhome. It's been from the east coast to the west coast, and from Florida to Alaska. We have never had a lack of power issue. We love the motorhome. The floor plan fits us and the 2 dogs perfectly. There's plenty of power and room, and it's a joy to drive.

Since we got back from Alaska at the end of September we've been trying to catch up on the things we didn't get done while we were gone. Our next trip will probably be a couple weeks in March, ending in mid to late April.

We also took our 2001 Adventurer 32V to Alaska in 2007, pulling the same Jeep. This one only had the 310 hp 2 valve per cylinder V10 engine, and a 4 speed transmission. We went to all 49 mainland states, and put on over 110,000 miles before trading it in on our 2013 Adventurer.

In both cases we opted for the shorter motorhome because we like to visit state and national parks. Many state parks were built in the 50's and 60's and consequently have smaller campsites. The shorter motorhome fits easily where one just a few feet longer would have trouble negotiating corners, and backing into campsites.
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That is supurbly helpful information, Hikerdogs, and it's exactly what we're going to be doing. Florida to Alaska first, two months in Alaska, then wandering the country.

I didn't know you have to put 1000 miles on a motorhome before pulling a toad. Will have to have a think about how to make that happen!
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I didn't know you have to put 1000 miles on a motorhome before pulling a toad. Will have to have a think about how to make that happen!
About that, if you’re buying new, in Florida, your Winnebago is made in Iowa about 60 miles from the Minnesota border. So, it will likely have more than 1000 miles on it when you buy it.

There is a WBGO dealer located in the same town where Winnebago’s factory is and he makes a big deal in YouTube videos about buying from him because of the 1000 mile without towing thing. It gives his dealership an advantage over other dealers that are not so near the factory. But a great many of us have bought our RV 1000 to 1500 miles from the factory without any problem towing a toad right after picking up the RV.
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About that, if you’re buying new, in Florida, your Winnebago is made in Iowa about 60 miles from the Minnesota border. So, it will likely have more than 1000 miles on it when you buy it.

There is a WBGO dealer located in the same town where Winnebago’s factory is and he makes a big deal in YouTube videos about buying from him because of the 1000 mile without towing thing. It gives his dealership an advantage over other dealers that are not so near the factory. But a great many of us have bought our RV 1000 to 1500 miles from the factory without any problem towing a toad right after picking up the RV.
We tried to purchase a motorhome from that company on 2 different occasions. Both times they were over $5,000.00 above the competition, and $10,000.00 below what competing dealers would give us for our trade in. Needless to say we didn't purchase there either time.
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We haven't yet driven them yet, but would certainly do so before making a final decision. We know the drive will probably be better with the Forza, though that isn't our only consideration. We still have plenty of time, but these are two of the five we're really interested in.


We loved our Winnebago Sightseer. It was perfect for us, until it wasn’t, it became less perfect because of the drivability. After 8 years and being blown out of our driving lane twice in by wind gusts, we gave up on her and bought a diesel that would handle better. Do I miss the things that made our Winnebago perfect? Yes, I do. But we found a smaller diesel that also works almost perfectly for us.

Drive the ones you are considering, hopefully in less than perfect conditions. Think about driving them at least 6 hours with crazy people driving around you and cutting you off.

Good luck on your search
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Thanks again. That makes sense, about the drive to the dealership ticking off 1000+ miles. Hadn't thought of that.

Because we only expect to be in our first coach for roughly 12-18 months, it's possible we'd move on to a diesel if we decided to keep going indefinitely. Some of the much older (like, 20 year old) coaches are on our radar, too, we're just not sure we're up to the task of fixing all the things that age-out, with no prior experience in fixing RV issues.

It's a tough call, with so many variables. Your insights have been useful!
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