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12-04-2020, 07:30 PM
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I have a chance at this
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...98065614722314
Did a walk around and it looks good except for some paint scrap on the passanger side towards the end of the awaning.
I have no idea if this are good quality couches or not but Im thinking they are.
Any info about this would be great. Im not sure even of the modle number.
Thoughts?
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12-04-2020, 07:46 PM
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I would look at comparing the prices of similar coaches make/model/year. The one thing that sticks out is the miles, at 193K is high and a big negotiating point on price. It would have had to been maintained to the highest of standards with records.
Check tire age, age of batteries, etc. Plan on having to replace some of the accessories, appliances due to age. AC units, refrigerator etc.
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12-04-2020, 08:37 PM
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What I have found out is the coach has 193k but the engine was replaced under a extended warranty and had about 40k miles on it.
I wonder if the cat engine has power or any other issues?
NADA give the price in the 37k range so this would be under that price and all the other coaches are running around 40k
Most everthing I have found is 40k +
https://www.smartrvguide.com/rvs-for...ago-journey-dl
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12-04-2020, 08:51 PM
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Next mileage component to look at is transmission.
If you pursue this I would recommend oil analysis for oil and coolant for engine and generator and oil analysis on transmission. Might take a look at the the rear differential should be checked also, possibly oil sample after a drive while any contaminates are still suspended in the oil. Ring and pinion can last a long time it set up right.
Maintenance history is important.
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12-04-2020, 09:26 PM
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Don't trust anything for sale on the internet. The interior pictures of that MH look like it's new. How much wear on carpeting and furniture would be normal during 193K miles? If you cannot put eyeballs on it, beware.
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12-04-2020, 10:13 PM
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Sometimes the interior pictures on the internet aren't even the coach that's for sale. Be cautious.
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12-04-2020, 10:22 PM
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Or the pics are of the RV when it was new or nearly new. These photos look way too good for an RV with nearly 200k miles on it (unless a complete overhaul was done). Be cautious.
Any used RV needs an independent inspection & as previously posted a fluid analysis should be part of it.
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12-05-2020, 12:58 AM
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It is the coach I did look at it today and my DW is going tomorrow to look at it. It started right up no oil or any leaks in the driveway or engine compartment,gen started right up. Drove great no pull and good power. Everything worked as it should. Roof is in good shape and has 2 solar panels mounted. It just went thru a inspection at cummins
There is a big scratch on the passenger side by the back awning. You can see it if you blow up the pic.
My question is I heard they have had problems with the cat 330 HP engine and the basement heat pump
Are those a problem?
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12-05-2020, 09:05 AM
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My guess with the usage those problems would have been worked out.
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12-05-2020, 09:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RJ8450
My question is I heard they have had problems with the cat 330 HP engine and the basement heat pump Are those a problem?
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We have an 02 Journey and love it. We only have a little over 110,000 miles and so far no problems with the engine at all. Runs great and the power is not bad.
As for the basement heat pump, we've had ours worked on and it's not a problem once you find someone who will drop it out and work on it. It's very similar to a home unit and any AC repair guy can work on it.
Ours is a different floor plan but looks much the same. We did rip the carpet out and replace it with laminate flooring.
Looks to me like they kept it up very well. Price seems OK as well.
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12-05-2020, 12:34 PM
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Looks like a good one to me. As mentioned the transmission has a lot of miles. That engine has a good reputation. What are the tires like?
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12-05-2020, 12:44 PM
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Saw that Journey on one of my normal "Winnebago" searches for fun.
Not the original paint job. I'd be interested in the story about that. Why, and how?
You did find the original brochure at the Winnebago site, right?
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12-06-2020, 01:05 AM
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Tires are dated 2017. look like brand new Michelin 22.5.
I'm not sure why it was repainted. I do know the original owner left a lot of gear that comes with it.
Paint does need to be touched up tho. I do know of all that the DW and I have looked it she likes this one the best. I also think I can get this for 31 k.
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12-06-2020, 11:35 AM
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To me the price sounds a bit high for a coach of that age with that many miles on it.. In 2001 we were debating between a Journey and an Adventurer. When pricing at a dealer to make an order a nicely equipped Journey had a list price of $125,000. While an Adventurer similarly equipped Listed for $103,000.00. In those days there wasn't nearly the difference in price as there is today between a gas powered motorhome and a diesel powered one.
Since we didn't know how long we would be RVing we went with the Adventurer. 12 years and 110,000 miles later we traded it off for another well equipped Adventurer.
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