Originally Posted by rScotty
Neub, thanks for those opinions on the trail bike weights. Like you, I noticed that the new Honda trail bikes are substantialy heavier than the older ones. Well, that's fine since I want an older one anyway. Not price, but because I like them better Might even go with a Cub 50. If anyone has a nice one, PM me.
Scott, that Versahaul looks more like the direction I want to go. One that fits a small Honda and a pedal bicycle could even be smaller - stick out less - than they show on their web site.
After all, adding a pedal bicycle to anything that carries even a small motor bike hould be easy. Pedal bikes weigh nothing. We Could probably strap it to the handlebar and footpegs of a little Honda
One limit is my own aging body's ability to lift something ont a rear rack. How in the world do you get a 500 lb+ Africa Twin up on yours?
First, a couple points here. I'm one of those that thinks outside the box. Yes, the model of Versahaul I have is a 500 lb. limit version. But, as stated earlier, that is in a stock form. I added two more receivers to the frame of our coach. And I ran runners from those receivers, out to the underside of the Versahaul. They are then bolted (not welded) to the Versahaul. Those runners are 2" x 2" x 28" x 3/16" tubes. The Versahaul was mounted and bolted into place, before the additional tubes, (one per side) were added.
Once the Versahaul was fastened into position and tightened down with my own hitch tighteners, then I custom bent the runners from the other receivers so they would just touch the bottom side of the Versahaul. This way, each of the support sections, right, middle and left, would all be carrying the same exact amount of weight. Now, that's a complete system.
Now, with the added runners and support, the Versahaul is now capable of easily exceeding its original weight limit capacity. Loading a 278 lb. Yamaha TW 200 by running up the ramp is pretty much childs play. It's just not that difficult and or unstable.
But, loading a 540 lb. Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sports DCT, is a WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY! That bike is fitted with the "DCT" or, Dual Clutch Transmission. It's a 1000 cc, FULLY AUTOMATIC MOTORCYCLE. Yep, NO CLUTCH. I knew that loading and un loading it would not only be dangerous but, also quite cumbersome. And having that much weight, that high off the ground, while loading and unloading, could get out of hand, rather quickly and that, could cause bodily harm, also rather quickly.
So, what I did was this. For loading and unloading that A/T, I add two more tubes to the ends of the existing runners. Those tubes, support a Harbor Freight 9" x 72" corragated ramp, that I use for temporary *Scaffolding*. I also have another 9" x 72" ramp, that I use to WALK UP along side the A/T when I'm loading and un loading it.
When it comes time to load the A/T, I line the bike up, just in front of the lower part of the ramp. I then start it. Since the bike is fully automatic, I push the "D" button that puts the bike in DRIVE so-to-speak. All I have to do from that point on is, nudge the throttle just slightly. As the bike powers itself right up the ramp, I walk along side of it, keeping it stable. Once the bike has both tires on the tray, it then hits a wheel chock with the front tire. That's the stopping point.
At that point, the wife then attaches two tie downs, one for right and one for left, both in the front. That stabilizes the bike and I shut it down. I then apply two more tie downs at the rear, DONE. At that point, I remove the temp scaffolding and additional tubes and store them in a compartment. Then, I un-fold the Tow bar and hook up the Jeep and, we're off to have fun.
When it comes time to unload the A/T, it's all done in reverse. Yes, the A/T is a heavy bike, no doubt about it. But, the way I have things set up is about the best way I can come up with, that is supportive enough and strong enough, to be able to haul that heavy bike AND tow our Jeep. The scaffolding idea was an afterthought that has turned out to be a VERY IMPORTANT part of loading and unloading the A/T. It's not needed for the TW 200.