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12-02-2015, 07:55 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Ladson, SC
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What is going to happen to Itasca Dealers
Since Winnebago I dropping the Itasca name from their line, ( per Winnebago web site) what is going to happen to their dealers.
I know of a few cities that have a Winnebago dealer and another for Itasca. In a case like this does it mean the dealer loses the franchise and no longer sells Winnebago products?
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Bob
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12-03-2015, 05:52 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 54
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Without reading the franchisee license agreement, it's impossible to know what will happen but let's look at this logically. You own a 2015 Itasca so I assume you're concerned about what happens to your warranty. The answer is: Probably nothing.
Since we know both WGO and Itasca come off the same assembly lines with the same chassis, appliances, fixtures and WGO supplied parts (walls, roofs, etc) we can assume WGO dealers can work on Itasca products. There may be franchisee restrictions about WGO working on Itasca products but that's all moot now and will probably be addressed by WGO lawyers.
From WGO dealers' perspective, very little will probably change except the above mentioned change in warranty work. Itasca dealers will probably be given a choice to convert to WGO. WGO may even offer them assistance in making that conversion. WGO certainly wouldn't want to lose money making Itasca dealers.
As for owners who are out of warranty, it probably won't make a nickel's worth of difference since many never use dealers for out-of-warranty repairs. It's probably not worth thinking about but if you're worried, call WGO and ask them.
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Lee
2010 WGO Vista 30W, 1993 Geo Tracker
Just a user with no RV or mechanical expertise
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12-04-2015, 06:21 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Ladson, SC
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I am not concerned about the repairs or parts.
Just was wondering why Winnebago would reduce the outlets for sales if it didn't need to.
I was thinking that they might be starting a new brand to replace Itasca as other manufacturers have done in the pat.
When Ford dropped Mercury and GM dropped Pontiac several of my friends lost their jobs as a result. I didn't know if the RV industry would handle their dealerships the same way.
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12-04-2015, 06:25 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2011
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Might be because Winnebago just bought the Country Coach line?
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12-04-2015, 06:29 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Aug 2013
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X2 on WBO buying the Country Coach plant in Ore. They also bought all of CC's proprietary technology, and the adjacent property that was another MH plant.
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12-04-2015, 08:24 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Nov 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rkh
Might be because Winnebago just bought the Country Coach line?
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That thought crossed my mind but, if CC has an established dealer network, why would WGO disrupt that by converting Itasca dealers to CC? Itasca dealers know the WGO line. If CC doesn't have a strong dealer network, it might make sense to convert Itasca dealers. Bottom line, this is just more morning exercise: jumping to conclusions.
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Lee
2010 WGO Vista 30W, 1993 Geo Tracker
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12-04-2015, 09:30 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Oct 2014
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OH NOOOOO! I've been orphaned! First no more CAT engines and now no more ITASCAS! Whatever shall I do?
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12-04-2015, 09:36 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by capnj
OH NOOOOO! I've been orphaned! First no more CAT engines and now no more ITASCAS! Whatever shall I do?
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Buy something else.
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12-04-2015, 09:42 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Aug 2012
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Hopefully with the CC. Influence Quality will improve. IMHO. there are too many models that are duplicated. Is one better than the other? I.E. Winnebago, VS.Itasca.Make one model and do it well.
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12-04-2015, 09:50 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeOts
That thought crossed my mind but, if CC has an established dealer network, why would WGO disrupt that by converting Itasca dealers to CC? Itasca dealers know the WGO line. If CC doesn't have a strong dealer network, it might make sense to convert Itasca dealers. Bottom line, this is just more morning exercise: jumping to conclusions.
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CC no longer has an established dealer network that I'm aware of since they went bankrupt in 2011. This may all be part of the equation. WGO is also moving its high end diesel lineup to Junction City to free up capacity in Forrest City.
http://kval.com/news/local/winnebago...ry-coach-brand
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12-04-2015, 10:27 AM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Altoona, Iowa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by poppopc
Hopefully with the CC. Influence Quality will improve. IMHO. there are too many models that are duplicated. Is one better than the other? I.E. Winnebago, VS.Itasca.Make one model and do it well.
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Winnebago/Itasca has always been one model. They both are manufactured on the same lines, they just are given either a Winnebago or an Itasca badge/name at the end of the line. The only differences may be in colors offered and a few different options that may be standard on one model and an option in the other.
The reason Winnebago added the Itasca "badging" was so that they could establish new Itasca dealers without complications from existing Winnebago dealers.
My guess is that Winnebago intends to maintain the Country Coach brand and quality as an entry into the higher-end MH market. Coachmen did this a long time ago with their Sportscoach/Cross Country line. Forest River continues that concept, although I'm not saying that Sportscoach/Cross Country is comparable to CC, it is a similar concept of separating out your high-end line.
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12-04-2015, 11:04 AM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Because of the way that Winnebago has be "squeezing" their dealers in recent years, there are many major markets that no longer have dealers for either brand.
Winnebago is no longer the company that it was say 10 years ago. IMHO, that applies to the quality of the product as well as the company itself. I have proudly owned their products in the past but wouldn't buy one today.
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12-04-2015, 12:00 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Longwood Fl
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ernieh
Because of the way that Winnebago has be "squeezing" their dealers in recent years, there are many major markets that no longer have dealers for either brand.
Winnebago is no longer the company that it was say 10 years ago. IMHO, that applies to the quality of the product as well as the company itself. I have proudly owned their products in the past but wouldn't buy one today.
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Everyone has an opinion and I respect yours. I totally agree that no company is what it was ten years ago. ( I too am falling apart.) But in my case I had a Tiffin and was ready to trade to a larger motorhome. Took it to Red Bay for service and after talking to other owners and the people at the factory I took Tiffin off my list and went to Winnebago. IMHO my Winnebago runs circles around my old Tiffin as far as build quality.
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2010 Itasca Meridian 40L
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12-04-2015, 12:25 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 66
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aauummm
Winnebago/Itasca has always been one model. They both are manufactured on the same lines, they just are given either a Winnebago or an Itasca badge/name at the end of the line. The only differences may be in colors offered and a few different options that may be standard on one model and an option in the other.
The reason Winnebago added the Itasca "badging" was so that they could establish new Itasca dealers without complications from existing Winnebago dealers.
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Incorrect.
The Itasca brand came out of the days when Winnebago had an exclusive arrangement with Dodge to provide chassis for their Class A motorhomes. In 1975 The Itasca brand was brought to be using the newly available Chevrolet chassis. They continued that way, Winnebago on Dodge, Itasca on Chev, until 1980 (I think), when Dodge quit the Class A chassis market. By that time, there were already separate dealerships for each brand, and it was just carried forward.
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12-04-2015, 12:56 PM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Altoona, Iowa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by forest
Incorrect.
The Itasca brand came out of the days when Winnebago had an exclusive arrangement with Dodge to provide chassis for their Class A motorhomes. In 1975 The Itasca brand was brought to be using the newly available Chevrolet chassis. They continued that way, Winnebago on Dodge, Itasca on Chev, until 1980 (I think), when Dodge quit the Class A chassis market. By that time, there were already separate dealerships for each brand, and it was just carried forward.
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That's going back further than I have any knowledge of although I have heard bits and pieces of what you say. According to Winnebago's website the Itasca brand was started by Winnebago in 1975 and as you say, both lines were built on the Chevy chassis in 1981.
However, there are newer Itasca dealerships established since 1981 that are able to be located in what is a Winnebago brand area. I purchased our latest MH, an Itasca, from one such dealer.
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12-04-2015, 07:00 PM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Crossville, Tennessee
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My understanding from a dealer is the Itasca dealers will become Winnebago dealers selling Ellipse, Meridian, etc. made by Winnebago.
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12-04-2015, 11:01 PM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulandvicki
Everyone has an opinion and I respect yours. I totally agree that no company is what it was ten years ago. ( I too am falling apart.) But in my case I had a Tiffin and was ready to trade to a larger motorhome. Took it to Red Bay for service and after talking to other owners and the people at the factory I took Tiffin off my list and went to Winnebago. IMHO my Winnebago runs circles around my old Tiffin as far as build quality.
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No argument here. 10 years ago I would not buy a Tiffin, I bought a Winnebago. Now I feel that the tables have turned. Next coach is anybodys guess at this point.
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12-04-2015, 11:19 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 19
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Itasca prototype
Just for fun. Serial #1
~6,000 miles on the odometer
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12-06-2015, 08:22 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: ...hopefully on the road!
Posts: 1,653
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeOts
Itasca dealers will probably be given a choice to convert to WGO. WGO may even offer them assistance in making that conversion. WGO certainly wouldn't want to lose money making Itasca dealers.
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I know of one long - time quite successful Itasca dealer who has been given notice that their relationship w/Winnebago Industries is being terminated. There as a slightly larger Winne dealership less than a mile from them and a new Camping World across town so in spite of consistent high ratings they get the ax. That will likely happen in most locations with similar circumstances.
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12-06-2015, 09:59 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Ladson, SC
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The same with mine. 1 Winnebago + Camping world + 1 Itasca dealer within 10 miles.
They were told about their termination, than had a parts audit and Winn shipped al of the parts back to the factory.
Dealer still has 8 units on the lot.
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