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Old 10-04-2024, 03:43 PM   #1
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Window removal? New problem, does it ever end?

It seems that the more things I get accomplished the more I find wrong. After washing the coach today, hose, not pressure washer, I found a wet floor under a couple windows. Climbing up on a ladder I could see that the window caulk has shrunk. I have been this route before on my older Winnie so I already know the windows have to come out, caulk and replace. The problem I am running into is all these windows have a wood surround that encompasses the blinds and I only see one accessible bracket low on each side. Something is holding the top of that surround and I need to get to it to remove them so I can get to the window frame screws.
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A picture would help.

So, you need to remove the window valances to get to the window frame screws?

Look for a single, maybe more, screw(s), up into a cabinet (if you have a cabinet or some other structure) directly above the window valance. All you might be able to see is the head of the screw. Hard to see because you have to crane your neck under the valance and look upwards.

Give that a try. If no luck attach pictures.

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I think I ran a putty knife on the top of the valance to find whatever was holding it up. When I hit an object, I looked up under the valance and that's when I saw the screw head
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No cabinets above but I am going to go out and do my best to look up in there. Several fusions in my neck prevent me from bending and twisting like I used to. I use my phone camera for a lot of that stuff nowadays.
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Old 10-04-2024, 11:46 PM   #5
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No cabinets above but I am going to go out and do my best to look up in there. Several fusions in my neck prevent me from bending and twisting like I used to. I use my phone camera for a lot of that stuff nowadays.
Got it. Then use a putty knife between the valance and the wall it's mounted against. All your doing is probing for an attachment not prying. If your valance design is like all.of mine it's a wood frame covered in padded fabric and the screws are nestled into the fabric making them hard to see.

Good luck with it maybe you won't have to bend and twist that much
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Have to go to Sis in laws house for lunch and then they are headed to Fla. to assess damages on their house down there. I will get back on the windows tomorrow. I have come to the conclusion that they never learned to make anything even the slightest bit easy on these. My old 89 was exactly the same way. But when you think about it, why should they? The average person turns these over in five to ten years so not much is bad at that time and after that Winnebago does not care about those of us that could not afford to buy even a ten year old one. They care about the new coach owners, that is where their money comes from. You used to be able to get parts for coaches going back many, many years but no more. Everything I have tried to find for mine is unavailable. Salvage yard only and even they get unrealistic prices. I need the small window behind the entrance door next to the passenger seat. $300 Plus!!!!!!
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Have to go to Sis in laws house for lunch and then they are headed to Fla. to assess damages on their house down there. I will get back on the windows tomorrow. I have come to the conclusion that they never learned to make anything even the slightest bit easy on these. My old 89 was exactly the same way. But when you think about it, why should they? The average person turns these over in five to ten years so not much is bad at that time and after that Winnebago does not care about those of us that could not afford to buy even a ten year old one. They care about the new coach owners, that is where their money comes from. You used to be able to get parts for coaches going back many, many years but no more. Everything I have tried to find for mine is unavailable. Salvage yard only and even they get unrealistic prices. I need the small window behind the entrance door next to the passenger seat. $300 Plus!!!!!!

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"I have come to the conclusion that they never learned to make anything even the slightest bit easy on these."

"They" don't have to make anything easy because THEY don't have to work on them!!!!!!! You do!


"The average person turns these over in five to ten years"
Well Sir, maybe in your neck of the woods they do but as for ourselves, we're now going on year 14 of ownership of our '04 Itasca Horizon 36GD with the CAT C-7 330HP. It's been paid for for over 10 years now and while we presently have 116,200 miles on it, it's still in great shape and I do every inch of maintenance/repairs/alterations/modifications etc. I have no idea what it's worth but I do know that I could not replace it with anything as nice without going waaaaaaaaaay into debt again.


And yep, it's getting tougher and tougher to procure at least SOME parts for coaches this old.
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When I said the average turnover I meant original owners. You are proof of that, you bought it when it was 6 years old so the original owner had it 5-6 years. THOSE original owners are the ones these big companies support since they are the ones that will come back and spend a half million on a brand new unit every 5 years. I am glad to hear you have had such a good run with yours. Unfortunately mine was driven a lot in the northern salt belt from the looks of it. I wish I had a garage big enough to work on it in so I could address a lot of the issues over the winter.
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rickf,
"I have come to the conclusion that they never learned to make anything even the slightest bit easy on these."

"They" don't have to make anything easy because THEY don't have to work on them!!!!!!! You do!


"The average person turns these over in five to ten years"
Well Sir, maybe in your neck of the woods they do but as for ourselves, we're now going on year 14 of ownership of our '04 Itasca Horizon 36GD with the CAT C-7 330HP. It's been paid for for over 10 years now and while we presently have 116,200 miles on it, it's still in great shape and I do every inch of maintenance/repairs/alterations/modifications etc. I have no idea what it's worth but I do know that I could not replace it with anything as nice without going waaaaaaaaaay into debt again.


And yep, it's getting tougher and tougher to procure at least SOME parts for coaches this old.
Scott
Somewhat similar situation with my Class C 2006 Sunseeker 2860DS. I do all the coach work and simple chassis maintenance. Worth nothing on the market but since it's in such good condition I'd spend waaay more to buy new or newer for almost the same thing. And at 70, wondering how long I can enjoy an active road trip in it - not worried about the rv, just me!
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I have nothing constructive to add, but I read your opening statement, immediately sympathized and wanted to let you know I feel your pain.
"It seems that the more things I get accomplished the more I find wrong."
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