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09-04-2016, 01:34 PM
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2006 Mountain Aire
Ok I have almost talked my DW into a diesel pusher. I have found a very nice 06 40' MA (400hp) that has been taken very good care of. Chatter of fact it has never been cooked in and has 30,000ish miles. DW thinks this is old, is she correct or can you guys help me in convincing her this is a good buy for the long term. It is not a tag axle but it should handle the cross winds much better.
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09-04-2016, 01:57 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Full Timer - Parked around.
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We bought our 2005 MADP in April 2015. Moved in for full-timing the same day. 52K miles. No issues. Runs and functions very well.
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2017 Ford F-250 Superduty 6.2L
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09-04-2016, 02:13 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: AB
Posts: 7,587
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You have good taste.
You will not regret buying a Newmar. Only caution, make sure to do your do-diligence and have the coach inspected before you lay down the money. Don't sweat the small stuff but pay close attention to the major components and negotiate your price accordingly.
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09-12-2016, 08:31 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Bought a 2003 w/64,000 miles in 2012, loaded it, drove 9,231 miles on a speed trip to see g-kids. Zero issues. Did install new shocks half way, but they were original and it was time. It was a one owner well cared for unit, and I've been very happy with our purchase. Maintenance records, and if possible a phone call to previous owner (I was lucky there) help with any doubts.
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09-12-2016, 09:07 AM
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Kitchener, ON Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StuartCaw
Ok I have almost talked my DW into a diesel pusher. I have found a very nice 06 40' MA (400hp) that has been taken very good care of. Chatter of fact it has never been cooked in and has 30,000ish miles. DW thinks this is old, is she correct or can you guys help me in convincing her this is a good buy for the long term. It is not a tag axle but it should handle the cross winds much better.
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I'm also looking at a 2006 MA, but the 3743 with only 68,000km. It's in beautiful shape. I can't believe it's 10 years old it still looks like new and the building quality is exceptional.
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09-12-2016, 10:45 AM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2014
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The only warning other than having the mechanicals checked out is you may have to do a bit of updating on the electronics. On my recently purchased 2007 I ended up replacing the TVs, speakers, satellite dish, the stereo electronics, changed the wiring to HDMI and will shortly be changing to a hybrid pure sine wave inverter...
That being said I've heard of many people that have 2002 coaches that have the entire interior ripped out and replaced. They figure that $60-$80k is cheaper than a $300 to $400k depreciating asset.... The idea being is if you have a strong foundation the coach can literally last a lifetime as long as you keep up on maintaining it.
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2007 Newmar Essex 4510, Spartan K2, 500HP ISM, Allison 4000
Silverleaf Dash & House, 1720w Solar, Victron 5kw Quattro, 1200ah Lithium
2016 Jeep Hard Rock Rubicon Wrangler Unlimited
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09-12-2016, 12:49 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Spartan Chassis
Join Date: May 2010
Location: McAlester Ok
Posts: 2,057
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We bought a '07 KSDP 3912 a year and a half ago. 40k miles. It was rough on the inside, and we negotiated for that. Thought I had done a thorough inspection myself ( this was our 4th coach) turns out I didn't and it has been expensive. Wish I wasn't so tight, I should have hired a professional third party inspector.
Problems/ Failures
Basement fridge failed two weeks after we got to home
Roof had a leak( that had been repaired..) some real rotten under decking not visible, whole new roof was $6500
Coolant sensor failed, got dreaded stop engine light 500 miles from home.
Engine batteries failed.
Toilet had to be replaced, tried two kits to repair before replacement.
Kitchen slide out started hanging and dragging on edge. Hidden subfloor had some dry rot and mechanism shimmed and adjusted $2400
Today it is in the body shop getting clear coat on top cap redone ..$400
And lots and lots of smaller low dollar things we have refurbished, updated, or replaced.
With that said.....we love Newmar, and think they are the best brand to buy. Our issues had to do with improper care and hidden damage. We bought this rig at a good price, and experience had taught us to plan for $10K to get a used coach to our liking. This one has been more than that, and we have a few thing left on our wishlist, but hopefully those are optional things we can do when we want to, not when we have too.
Again pay for a thorough inspection, including tranny and engine oil analysis.
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2010 Nissan Frontier SE
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09-12-2016, 01:16 PM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Location: SoCal
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Older quality coach is preferable over newer lesser quality coach. IMHO.
Establish your budget and then roll back through the years till you find a fit.
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2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
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09-12-2016, 06:07 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
Nor'easters Club Workhorse Chassis Owner iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 30,785
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Good luck to both StuartCaw and rurocking maybe a welcome to the Newmar family.
Below in my signature you will find many links to information for maybe your future Newmars.
Enjoy the forum and safe travels in your to be Newmar.
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09-12-2016, 07:02 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Nappanee, IN
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Me had an 05 Madp before our current Essex the Madp was a great coach you will love it just look it over good but Newmar builds a great unit
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09-12-2016, 07:07 PM
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 37,725
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We've had two DSDP's. The last one, a 2002 4090, was the most dependable rig we've ever had even after 13 years.
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2009 45' Magna 630 w/Cummins ISX 650 HP/1950 Lbs Ft, HWH Active Air
Charter Good Sam Lifetime Member, FMCA,
RV'ing since 1957, NRA Benefactor Life, towing '21 Jeep JLU Rubicon Ecodiesel
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09-12-2016, 07:55 PM
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Location: Vancouver, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DGBPokes
We bought a '07 KSDP 3912 a year and a half ago. 40k miles. It was rough on the inside, and we negotiated for that. Thought I had done a thorough inspection myself ( this was our 4th coach) turns out I didn't and it has been expensive. Wish I wasn't so tight, I should have hired a professional third party inspector.
Again pay for a thorough inspection, including tranny and engine oil analysis.
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Same here when we traded the '02 DSDP for the Magna, but even then an oil analysis won't pick up engine parts that are about to break. The Magna had been stored inside for several months and the two foggy windows didn't show up until it was outside and we were on our way to Phoenix. The drivers window leaked, again, didn't catch it till we got back home and it rained heavily. Have it fixed now. Knew it needed new tires since they are dated 2007 but they have no cracks showing at all. The auto gen start doesn't work and didn't when we picked it up the person doing the PDI said they'd look at it when we got back, but didn't write it into the paperwork and when we got back he had changed jobs. Still need to get that fixed!
MotoSat controller burned out so that was just over $800. Last trip out the Carefree Apex controller quit, so another $450. The last two were OK at the dealers so no inspection would have caught it.
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2009 45' Magna 630 w/Cummins ISX 650 HP/1950 Lbs Ft, HWH Active Air
Charter Good Sam Lifetime Member, FMCA,
RV'ing since 1957, NRA Benefactor Life, towing '21 Jeep JLU Rubicon Ecodiesel
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09-13-2016, 06:10 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 107
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Thanks for all the info. I bought our current my 4 years ago it is a newmar canyon star. The quality that our coach has now 10 years old is the reason I will stay with newmar.
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