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09-17-2018, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ghaynes754
Don, be safe and call Centramatic directly in case something has changed. Great folks and will install for free if you buy from them and are in the Dallas area.
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This information, based on the stats I posted, is from Jerry @ Centramatics. He has also given me a tag part number, which I have yet to post. His information assumes the drum brakes have a 2 in lip. He provided pictures, which I have sent to FCCC waiting for confirmation.
Once that is confirmed, I will post the details.
I provided FCCC with my serial number for a 2019 dsdp 4369, and they replied with the tire size, wheel info, and lug specs. All of the tag axle have the same specs for these according to the FCCC 2019 newmar tag pdf. I have attached both documents, tag and non-tag.
The ventana tag info is available here: https://cdn.fccchq.com/specsheets/5b...entana-Tag.pdf, and is different from the DSDP.
My information is only valid for the DSDP tag chassis. Others may vary and specs should be compared. See this site for details: https://www.fcccrv.com/coaches/?current=1
2019-Newmar-Dutch-Star.pdf2019-Newmar-Dutch-Star-Tag.pdf
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09-17-2018, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Ernie.
Who is installing the centramatics in Napanee and any idea how much the installation will be?
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I have sent an email to newmar to see if they will if not, then I am going to find a shop to check alignment and install. I will post details.
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09-18-2018, 09:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ernie.
Who is installing the centramatics in Napanee and any idea how much the installation will be?
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Newmar has agreed to install for me during FPU.
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09-18-2018, 09:50 AM
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I do not have good news regarding Centramatics on the Tag axle. Attached is a drawing provided by FCC that shows the drum housing, with a sloped step. Centramatics require it to be flat.
The part information I am providing is the one and only part that Centramatic is offering for a drum passive tag in my size. It is possible that once I take delivery of the coach, I will find that the step is indeed flat, and not sloped. Otherwise, I will most likely be running beads in the tag.
The link to the Centramatis part that appears to not fit is: Wheel Balancer 800-830 from Centramatic
You can tell by looking at the link pictures of the drum and comparing the drawings from Freightliner that there is indeed a difference in the step.
What I am unsure about is what happens if I run the wheels turned outwards, like the drive axle? I am not sure how drastic the geometry changes are, and if there will be clearance issues with the turning, but I assume that is going to be the deal breaker.
If anyone on a 2016+ DSDP Tag has put centramatics on the tag axle, I would like to know the part number installed, and any details regarding fitment.
As of now, the information I have suggests that there is not an option.
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09-18-2018, 10:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redbaron73
Newmar has agreed to install for me during FPU.
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WooHoo! Now something else to order...
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09-18-2018, 04:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redbaron73
If anyone on a 2016+ DSDP Tag has put centramatics on the tag axle, I would like to know the part number installed, and any details regarding fitment.
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Centramatic installed part #800-820 on my 2016 DS steerable tag axle. Installed part #600-640 on drive axle.
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09-18-2018, 07:37 PM
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One of the best mods I've done was adding the Centramatic balancers. As Neal said, after I get the Active Air, I won't need tires anymore....
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09-18-2018, 09:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by osok
Centramatic installed part #800-820 on my 2016 DS steerable tag axle. Installed part #600-640 on drive axle.
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That's interesting. Since it's for 8.25" rims, I am guessing that's why it fit. Yours shows to have the Same 9" rims mine does.
Did you go to Alvarado, TX for install, or a dealer?
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09-18-2018, 10:47 PM
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These are the ones I have on 2017 Dutch Star 4018.
FRONT APN 700-720
DRIVE APN 600-640
TAG AXLE APN 800-820
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09-18-2018, 11:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RJ51
These are the ones I have on 2017 Dutch Star 4018.
FRONT APN 700-720
DRIVE APN 600-640
TAG AXLE APN 800-820
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Its looking like that should be the proper number. I am going to order it and will post back once installed. Thanks!
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09-19-2018, 05:29 AM
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Do you have a name for who said they would install the Centramatics at your factory pick up?
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09-19-2018, 05:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redbaron73
That's interesting. Since it's for 8.25" rims, I am guessing that's why it fit. Yours shows to have the Same 9" rims mine does.
Did you go to Alvarado, TX for install, or a dealer?
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Centramatics were installed at Centramatic in Alvarado, TX.
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09-19-2018, 05:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by osok
Centramatics were installed at Centramatic in Alvarado, TX.
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Ok, that's where I will be taking mine. It seems reasonable that these are the correct ones.
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09-19-2018, 06:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redbaron73
Newmar has agreed to install for me during FPU.
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Newmar will actually do the install at Service ?
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