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08-21-2019, 10:37 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Stillwater, Ok
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2020 New Aire update
As many of you know we sold our 2019 New Aire 3343 in April and ordered a 2020 New Aire 3543. Despite Newmar saying we could get it around July 16 we still do not have it and don’t expect it to ship until next week! I am learning that Newmar is typically missing off line dates, some by over two weeks. This is frustrating because we have missed the summer and may not get it by Labor Day. So, just a heads up, if you order a Newmar don’t make plans until you see it arrive. As they add more diversity to the line(a new super C and now the Kountry Star diesel) this will likely get worse. Still a good coach and I hope this dilution will not drag quality down. Ok rant over, back to the good stuff. Still excited to get the 3543 with the big engine and king bed in a 35 ft package.
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08-23-2019, 11:18 AM
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Newmar Owners Club
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Location: Katy, TX
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Congrat's on purchasing a new 2020 New Aire. Hopefully the delivery delay is because Newmar is assuring your new coach will be trouble free!
With regards to your Kountry Star comment, it is not a new motorhome in Newmar's product line. Rather, the Kountry Star is a re-brand of the Ventana LE model. My understanding is since the Ventana was redesigned for 2020, the Ventana and Ventana LE can no longer share significant components (such as the front and rear caps). Thus Newmar changed the Ventana LE name to Kountry Star.
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08-23-2019, 12:37 PM
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Senior Member
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Thanks! Did not realize that!
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08-23-2019, 05:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fagnaml
With regards to your Kountry Star comment, it is not a new motorhome in Newmar's product line. Rather, the Kountry Star is a re-brand of the Ventana LE model. My understanding is since the Ventana was redesigned for 2020, the Ventana and Ventana LE can no longer share significant components (such as the front and rear caps). Thus Newmar changed the Ventana LE name to Kountry Star.
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and not that anyone cares about my opinion on this re-branding of the ventana LE to Kountry Star, which is bringing back an old name from the past, but i'm gonna give it anyways !
this, to me, just shows how clueless the newmar marketing department is...of all the possible names, they went with kountry star....not a forward looking name change at all....about as out of sync with the times as possible.....not sure what they were thinking here.... it's an entry level DP....a large part of the segment they are after are younger people....kountry star ain't inspiring, that's for sure....i thought they were making strides to freshen up and modernize things from a marketing perspective (like the new aire, and the original new aire was way ahead of it's time)....this is going backwards...
anyways, off rant....
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08-23-2019, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by willipaul
and not that anyone cares about my opinion on this re-branding of the ventana LE to Kountry Star, which is bringing back an old name from the past, but i'm gonna give it anyways !
this, to me, just shows how clueless the newmar marketing department is...of all the possible names, they went with kountry star....not a forward looking name change at all....about as out of sync with the times as possible.....not sure what they were thinking here.... it's an entry level DP....a large part of the segment they are after are younger people....kountry star ain't inspiring, that's for sure....i thought they were making strides to freshen up and modernize things from a marketing perspective (like the new aire, and the original new aire was way ahead of it's time)....this is going backwards...
anyways, off rant....
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Should’ve called it the Avocado Toast Star....
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08-24-2019, 04:48 AM
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08-24-2019, 05:44 AM
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Newmar Owners Club
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Hi willipaul,
We do not agree. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Bringing back the Kountry Star name was an excellent choice. The KS sold well before and it will sell well now.
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08-24-2019, 07:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GaryKD
Hi willipaul,
We do not agree. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Bringing back the Kountry Star name was an excellent choice. The KS sold well before and it will sell well now.
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Not to speak for willipaul, but I think all he was saying is that the name doesn’t necessarily align with the preferred optics and aesthetics of the demographic Newmar is trying to capture with the KS.
Will it sell? Oh yeah. They’ll sell them all, like they always do. I think the philosophical point that willipaul is making is, to who?
Personally, I’m not too convinced that Newmar is actually trying to catch the younger crowd yet. I’m only 33 which I would consider to be a younger fella in this particular market. By no means do I find Newmar’s ugly. I mean, I bought one after all. However, the much younger crowd seems to prefer more modern interior design. I think Winnebago is more on the right track there for attracting younger crowds through design.
For Newmar, I think it will be a slow and methodical transition. They sell every last one of their coaches so they ain’t hurting and a radical redesign would just alienate and turn off their existing customer base.
What’s in a name, anyway?
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08-24-2019, 07:49 AM
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Freightliner Owners Club Entegra Owners Club
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One of the big changes the new KS has over the previous VLE is it now has the same engine and transmission as the V, 360HP and Allison 3000. The VLE had 340 HP and the Allison 2500 that limited towing capacity to 5,000 pounds. A major improvement!
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08-24-2019, 07:52 AM
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I am 37 and just bought a 2019 Ventana 4037. We almost switched at the last minute to the 2020 Ventana 4369 because the interior is way more modern. The square countertops were a big plus but we ultimately decided for our first coach to conserve on price. On our next coach which we will likely order to build we will definitely pick something with more modern finishes. Seems like Newmar is trying to go a little more modern.
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08-24-2019, 10:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Benjaminw675
I am 37 and just bought a 2019 Ventana 4037. We almost switched at the last minute to the 2020 Ventana 4369 because the interior is way more modern. The square countertops were a big plus but we ultimately decided for our first coach to conserve on price. On our next coach which we will likely order to build we will definitely pick something with more modern finishes. Seems like Newmar is trying to go a little more modern.
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True. I am happy about the new squared off counter edge profile. I think its going to look fantastic. It’s going to be little touches like that for Newmar
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08-24-2019, 12:47 PM
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Stuart
The 40 foot VLE had the 360 with a 3000 Allison. Previous coach was a 2016 VLE 4044.
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08-24-2019, 04:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Switt
Stuart
The 40 foot VLE had the 360 with a 3000 Allison. Previous coach was a 2016 VLE 4044.
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Yes that is correct, I was referring to the non tags. I should have been more specific
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08-24-2019, 05:37 PM
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The 40 foot VLE is a non tag axle.
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