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Old 10-04-2016, 07:44 PM   #1
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2705 Bay Star Sport 2016 - Update

Some updates regarding our 2705 Bay Star Sport 2016 purchased the end of last summer. This is a 2016 Newmar but on a 2015 chassis with the five speed transmission (not the newer six speed). We took a trip last September and had a breakdown early on. This is covered on previous posts. That trip put about 5,000 miles on the coach and then we put it in storage until this fall. We had an oil change before taking off for our second trip out west. The tow hauler mode functioned extremely well in most situations, reducing braking in the mountains significantly except on the worst grades (6% and higher). Climbs, even towing, were slow but steady as we tended to let the engine dictate the best speeds/RPMs. While we miss the exhaust brake and air-bag suspension on the DP, the gas unit performed better than we anticipated.

We felt the coach road fairly well the first trip, but did have it aligned at our local Ford Fleet Service before we left. My husband also checked all the slide mounts and did find some of the bolts were loose. Thanks to those who posted about this issue. Again,. we did not note any significant handling issues with the coach, so while we had been considering doing the CHF, we decided to wait.

Just outside of Omaha our Blue Ox tow bar failed; one of the arms locked into position and we had to drive the car and coach separately. Since Camping World did not have a new bar anywhere near, we ended up driving north a couple of hours to the Blue Ox facility to get it repaired. We decided to replace the bar with a new one as it was 14 years old.

After a week in Yosemite, we traveled through the eastern Sierras, Great Basin, Capital Reef, Natural Bridges, Canyonlands, Moab/Arches Ntl Parks, and made the long drive back to MI through the Rockies on I70 The trip from Denver was challenging due to bad roads, lots of construction zones and many, many trucks, high winds across Nebraska and Iowa, and more construction, wind and pouring rain through Illinois and MI. We blamed the high winds, lousy roads, and heavy truck traffic on the really poor handling, complaining that keeping the unit on the road was getting harder and the swaying and rolling intolerable. At one point, after we dropped a wheel off the new pavement and the coach swayed, rocked and rolled so bad we thought we were going to lose control of the coach.

The drive home was so bad, we decided to do the CHF upon our return and see if that helped. My husband was able to do the front in about an hour this morning. After reading various reviews on this site, we decided we should also do the rear SB. When he crawled under to work on it, he discovered the bracket that held the rear SB on one side was broken. Wow, this really explained why the handling disintegrated so bad on the drive home--we actually had no SB in the rear at all. It was actually a relief to know this!

Took the coach to our local Ford Fleet Service Center (so lucky we have an awesome service center two miles away from home) for repairs. Hopefully this will be covered under our Ford warranty.

Once the SB is repaired, we will finish the CHF and test drive the unit again. Hopefully it will be better than it was from our initial purchase, not just the last trip home.

We had a great trip and found the 2705 to offer more than enough space and amenities for us to live very comfortably in it for over a month. We boondocked on BLM areas as well as the National Parks and private campgrounds. We easily went two or three days without power or water (just two or three of us). We loved camping at Natural Bridges, as we were always too big to fit in the small campground in years past.

Our main complaint remains the inability to open the back window for airflow. We continue to try and find a replacement window that will open when we are parked, and in the mean time we still use the emergency window with a screen and fan to get more air flow in the back of the unit. We replaced all our light bulbs with LEDs and purchased a free standing 12 volt Magic fan for boondocking. We rarely run the TV, AC or generator. We do not have the TV in the bedroom, and wish they had an option to replace the large TV with more storage cabinets.

We did have issues with the fridge at times; the check light would turn on multiple times forcing us to turn it off and on until it ran correctly. It seemed to run briefly, then you could hear the electronic ignition trying to light it over and over. Eventually it would run for a while, but in the night the check light would come back on. This was typically at higher altitudes or when transitioning from electric back to propane. Since this is an intermittent problem, it will be difficult to assess and fix it. Any input, comments or suggestions are most welcome.

In summary, we have no regrets at all about downsizing from our 36 foot DP to our Bay Star Sport 2705. We loved having two small slides versus one full wall slide. In tight spots, we easily left the front slide in for the night. We found the heating system to perform extremely well on cold nights and warm up the unit quickly in the a.m. Water was hot very quickly and it stayed warm most of the day after turning the tank heater off in the morning.

Hope anyone considering a smaller unit finds this info informative. As always, comments and suggestions are welcome!

Lynn in MI
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Lynn,

Thanks for your trip report with you Bay Star Sport. It sounds like you are enjoying your adventures. We love our Bay Star 3103 and came real close to buying the Bay Star Sport just to stay under 30'. We moved up from a MB Sprinter Airstream motorhome so we were trying to make this our last motorhome. I know, good luck with that.

We haven't made it to Utah yet but maybe next spring. Getting ready to head to SoCal desert in the not to distant future. We haven't had any issues with ours but I always say, "when going out for adventure sometimes you get more than you bargained for." Having the right attitude makes all the difference.

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Some updates regarding our 2705 Bay Star Sport 2016 purchased the end of last summer. This is a 2016 Newmar but on a 2015 chassis with the five speed transmission (not the newer six speed). We took a trip last September and had a breakdown early on. This is covered on previous posts. That trip put about 5,000 miles on the coach and then we put it in storage until this fall. We had an oil change before taking off for our second trip out west. The tow hauler mode functioned extremely well in most situations, reducing braking in the mountains significantly except on the worst grades (6% and higher). Climbs, even towing, were slow but steady as we tended to let the engine dictate the best speeds/RPMs. While we miss the exhaust brake and air-bag suspension on the DP, the gas unit performed better than we anticipated.

We felt the coach road fairly well the first trip, but did have it aligned at our local Ford Fleet Service before we left. My husband also checked all the slide mounts and did find some of the bolts were loose. Thanks to those who posted about this issue. Again,. we did not note any significant handling issues with the coach, so while we had been considering doing the CHF, we decided to wait.

Just outside of Omaha our Blue Ox tow bar failed; one of the arms locked into position and we had to drive the car and coach separately. Since Camping World did not have a new bar anywhere near, we ended up driving north a couple of hours to the Blue Ox facility to get it repaired. We decided to replace the bar with a new one as it was 14 years old.

After a week in Yosemite, we traveled through the eastern Sierras, Great Basin, Capital Reef, Natural Bridges, Canyonlands, Moab/Arches Ntl Parks, and made the long drive back to MI through the Rockies on I70 The trip from Denver was challenging due to bad roads, lots of construction zones and many, many trucks, high winds across Nebraska and Iowa, and more construction, wind and pouring rain through Illinois and MI. We blamed the high winds, lousy roads, and heavy truck traffic on the really poor handling, complaining that keeping the unit on the road was getting harder and the swaying and rolling intolerable. At one point, after we dropped a wheel off the new pavement and the coach swayed, rocked and rolled so bad we thought we were going to lose control of the coach.

The drive home was so bad, we decided to do the CHF upon our return and see if that helped. My husband was able to do the front in about an hour this morning. After reading various reviews on this site, we decided we should also do the rear SB. When he crawled under to work on it, he discovered the bracket that held the rear SB on one side was broken. Wow, this really explained why the handling disintegrated so bad on the drive home--we actually had no SB in the rear at all. It was actually a relief to know this!

Took the coach to our local Ford Fleet Service Center (so lucky we have an awesome service center two miles away from home) for repairs. Hopefully this will be covered under our Ford warranty.

Once the SB is repaired, we will finish the CHF and test drive the unit again. Hopefully it will be better than it was from our initial purchase, not just the last trip home.

We had a great trip and found the 2705 to offer more than enough space and amenities for us to live very comfortably in it for over a month. We boondocked on BLM areas as well as the National Parks and private campgrounds. We easily went two or three days without power or water (just two or three of us). We loved camping at Natural Bridges, as we were always too big to fit in the small campground in years past.

Our main complaint remains the inability to open the back window for airflow. We continue to try and find a replacement window that will open when we are parked, and in the mean time we still use the emergency window with a screen and fan to get more air flow in the back of the unit. We replaced all our light bulbs with LEDs and purchased a free standing 12 volt Magic fan for boondocking. We rarely run the TV, AC or generator. We do not have the TV in the bedroom, and wish they had an option to replace the large TV with more storage cabinets.

We did have issues with the fridge at times; the check light would turn on multiple times forcing us to turn it off and on until it ran correctly. It seemed to run briefly, then you could hear the electronic ignition trying to light it over and over. Eventually it would run for a while, but in the night the check light would come back on. This was typically at higher altitudes or when transitioning from electric back to propane. Since this is an intermittent problem, it will be difficult to assess and fix it. Any input, comments or suggestions are most welcome.

In summary, we have no regrets at all about downsizing from our 36 foot DP to our Bay Star Sport 2705. We loved having two small slides versus one full wall slide. In tight spots, we easily left the front slide in for the night. We found the heating system to perform extremely well on cold nights and warm up the unit quickly in the a.m. Water was hot very quickly and it stayed warm most of the day after turning the tank heater off in the morning.

Hope anyone considering a smaller unit finds this info informative. As always, comments and suggestions are welcome!

Lynn in MI
Loved reading your report. And especially hearing your perspective on downsizing. I know it's not for everyone but we too are happy with shorter ( although we're a spacious 3' longer than you!). But we never tried longer so we don't really have a good comparison!

Let us know what you think of the fixes when you're back out on the road!

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Thanks for the report will be very useful for people.
In QT's # 3 Bay Star section I have added recently some threads on the replacement of the rear window and how some have added screens for the escape window in rear.
The fridge gas problem there maybe a sleeve on gas tube that can be adjusted to allow more air in higher altitudes. It could possibly on your LP tank pressure valve in need of adjustment.
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Thanks for the nice responses. Glad the info is useful to some. When cleaning out the Bay Star 2705 from our month long journey out west and back, we discovered that the bay just in front of the passenger side rear wheel well was soaking wet. We did drive home through torrential rains, but somehow do not think this was the cause of the soaking wet carpet in the bay. We have searched and examined every inch of the bay and found a few confusing clues: only the bottom of the bay was wet; none of the walls of the bay (also carpeted) felt wet. We could find no source of water leaking from anything above the bay nor any possible cracks or seams in the wheel well. However, when examining the area above the top of the wheel well where the water lines enter the bay from beneath the shower, we discovered the insulation was soaking wet just under the water lines to the edge of the wheel well. Clearly, it was wet enough to drip down onto the carpeted bay floor. It was not wet anywhere else, however. We pulled out the wet insulation and put some dry toweling under the water lines, but it then remained dry. We also checked under the shower and could see no signs of water leakage anywhere else. This has been driving us crazy for days and we have poked around under the coach from every direction and still cannot find a source of the water. It is dry now, and the unit at the Ford dealer, but we just can't let it go!

We always appreciate the comments and suggestions. We did make a screen for our emergency window, and prop it open for air flow when camping, but it is a real nuisance and I have continued to try and locate a replacement Hehr window for the rear of the coach. I have yet been unable to get the right info from the frame of the current window as it requires taking the window frame out (about 20 screws) or the window itself out. Newmar sent me their part number for the window, but this does not do any good as we need the Hehr part number off the window frame itself. It appears the window we had hoped to purchase to replace it has been discontinued. They do make windows with louvered vents in the lower section of the window, which would be awesome back there. But I have no idea on price or if it will fit without getting the Hehr window number. Anyone else looked into buying a new window for the rear of the coach?

Will be anxious to drive the unit again with a working stabilizer bar and CHF on front and rear. I see from the Ford Chassis site that loose or broken bolts/brackets for the SB's may have been an issue in the past! Something we would never have dreamed we would have to inspect after a mere 5000 miles! Guessing other BS owners may want to check theirs.

Love this resource! Thanks to all who participate.

Lynn
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