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Old 05-15-2016, 01:02 PM   #1
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40 ft vs 43 ft feedback

Everyone has been so helpful, thank you. We are going to buy a newmar DP based on all the great feedback, likely a 2008 or 2009 dutch star. Can I get your thoughts on the 40 ft vs the 43 ft. Is it any more difficult to get campsites on the 43? Where do you really see the difference in the extra 3 feet? Which rides better since one has a tag axle? Also, since the 43 weighs more is the gas mileage worse? Thanks again for all your feedback.
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Old 05-15-2016, 01:10 PM   #2
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We went from a 40' DSDP (non-tag) to a 45' tag axle Country Coach. We haven't found any difference in finding campsites. We can still fit into spots that the 40' DSDP did, to the chagrin of the park attendant. Fits the same in our spot beside the house too.
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I just two weeks ago pick up my 2013 43' MA. I have had a 45' country coach magna and really tried to find a 40' coach. Now having driven this coach about 500 miles I really see no difference. I would go with the length which lets you find the model, yr, and things you are looking for in a coach.
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Old 05-15-2016, 02:57 PM   #4
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I think in terms of campground limitations it depends on whether you're doing state/national parks or only private. Only private, then I think very little difference. However, I've found my 40' to be the longest many state parks technically allow.
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Test drive them both on the same bad road.
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Generally speaking...

With Newmar a 43' coach gives you the same basement size as a 40' non-tag coach. Since Newmar puts a tag on its 40' models you lose space compared to a 40' non-tag model.
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Get the floorplan you prefer

From the camping areas I have been to only a few had length limitations and they were usually around 35ft, I had a 39+ ft gas RV and I just went elsewhere. Of the places I went 40ft or 45ft... They would all easily fit.

In regards to mpg yes a tag axel RV should do worse at the pump. It weights more and also creates more friction on the road however thus it will suck down more fuel. How much I have no clue... Probably not much at all... the biggest factor is how fast you drive
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We upgraded from a 40' Country Coach to a 43' Newmar Dutch Star. The drive is more stable. I did have to re-adjust myself to the turning radius and using the tag axle dump for tighter turns in the parking areas. But once I adjusted, I wish I had purchased the 43' in the first place.

I've slipped into a few parks with the 40' but not without taking a few branches hostage. I've decided I like my Master Class paint on the Dutch star so won't be going to heavily treed parks with tight quarters any time soon.
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In regards to mpg yes a tag axle RV should do worse at the pump. It weighs more and also creates more friction on the road however thus it will suck down more fuel. How much I have no clue... Probably not much at all... the biggest factor is how fast you drive
Our previous MH was a 40' Dutch Star no tag with the ISC 350 and 32,000# GVW and I added a Banks kit. I always used 7.5 mpg to guestimate my fuel costs and it was usually pretty accurate.
With the Magna the VMS shows 7.6 mpg for 45,000 miles and it weighs 50,000#'s or so with a 650 HP ISX and has a tag. I don't see any loss of mileage with the much heavier, longer and higher HP engine.
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Not sure about the comparison

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Our previous MH was a 40' Dutch Star no tag with the ISC 350 and 32,000# GVW and I added a Banks kit. I always used 7.5 mpg to guestimate my fuel costs and it was usually pretty accurate.
With the Magna the VMS shows 7.6 mpg for 45,000 miles and it weighs 50,000#'s or so with a 650 HP ISX and has a tag. I don't see any loss of mileage with the much heavier, longer and higher HP engine.
IMO This comparison may not be fair. The older ISC engine probably was not as efficient, fuel wise, as the newer ISX. I would think that if you are comparing a 40' vs 43' coach with the same class/version engine and approximately same horsepower the fuel use would be higher with the heavier coach. Again, using the same version engine, compare the coach weight to horsepower ratio and if the ratio is higher the fuel use will also likely be higher.
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From my experience once you get past 35 feet in the 40 + range it doesn't matter. In almost all cases if a 40 fits the 43 will too. The tag adds some operating expense tires , mechanical complexity (extra air bags an lift mechanism etc) but like all things it also gives ..tracking . Stability and load carrying capacity.
If you really can't or don't want the expense of the tag ... Like most people say absolutely don't drive it and you can remain happy that your not missing anything.
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The main advantage I see in getting the 3' shorter model is being able to tow a car trailer, or a longer toad like a crew cab pickup, and be under 65' overall.
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We went from a 39' KSDP to a 43' DSDP. The campground we use for Airventure (EAA) Sleepy Hollow Campground will not let us in with our 43' making it very difficult if now impossible to attend this year. We are finding it more difficult to find spaces in our state parks with the extra length. The 43' drives and rides worlds above the previous 39' and 40'.
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Something to at least consider... If you are towing at least... There are 7 or 8 states that have 60 foot total length laws... Now perhaps some of the experienced rv'ers can chime in.. I am not one.. Ive heard they dont enforce length laws often... But I have heard more recently they have been cracking down.. Now maybe they are only cracking down on the dummies running 75 to 80 foot rigs But somebody else would need to chime in for that
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