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09-23-2020, 04:19 PM
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7 wire towing socket. No passenger side brake light going to the toad.
I have no brake light on passenger side toad. The blinker is working fine. Whoever wired it before me had the wiring in a mess. Got it all straight and found a wire that was the brake wire going to the passenger side brake light. I tied it to the blinker wire down by the socket. According to the diagram the brake and signal are on the same pole. When I went to test the blinker it came on but no blinking. I cut the wire I had found for the brake and the blinker is back to working properly but no brake light . Back to where I started. Question is what do I need to do to get the brake light working on the toad. Drivers side works just fine.
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09-23-2020, 07:22 PM
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[QUOTE=patrickemb;5452624]I have no brake light on passenger side toad. The blinker is working fine. Whoever wired it before me had the wiring in a mess. Got it all straight and found a wire that was the brake wire going to the passenger side brake light. I tied it to the blinker wire down by the socket. According to the diagram the brake and signal are on the same pole. When I went to test the blinker it came on but no blinking. I cut the wire I had found for the brake and the blinker is back to working properly but no brake light . Back to where I started. Question is what do I need to do to get the brake light working on the toad. Drivers side works just fine.[/QUOTE
Does your coach have separate brake (Red) and turn signal (amber) rear lights? ( id guess yes)
And does your toad have separate brake/ turn lights? ( id guess no)
Assuming i guessed right above, your coach will have a converter to combine the brake and turn signals. 1 wire out of the converter for brake/right turn combined and another for brake/left turn combined. These 2 wires go thru the connector to the toad.
If your toad has separate brake and turn lights you dont need the converter, 3 separate wires run thru the connector to toad for brake, right and left turn.
Once know your setup can give you more specific help.
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09-23-2020, 07:58 PM
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[QUOTE=Jon_C;5452832]
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Originally Posted by patrickemb
I have no brake light on passenger side toad. The blinker is working fine. Whoever wired it before me had the wiring in a mess. Got it all straight and found a wire that was the brake wire going to the passenger side brake light. I tied it to the blinker wire down by the socket. According to the diagram the brake and signal are on the same pole. When I went to test the blinker it came on but no blinking. I cut the wire I had found for the brake and the blinker is back to working properly but no brake light . Back to where I started. Question is what do I need to do to get the brake light working on the toad. Drivers side works just fine.[/QUOTE
Does your coach have separate brake (Red) and turn signal (amber) rear lights? ( id guess yes)
And does your toad have separate brake/ turn lights? ( id guess no)
Assuming i guessed right above, your coach will have a converter to combine the brake and turn signals. 1 wire out of the converter for brake/right turn combined and another for brake/left turn combined. These 2 wires go thru the connector to the toad.
If your toad has separate brake and turn lights you dont need the converter, 3 separate wires run thru the connector to toad for brake, right and left turn.
Once know your setup can give you more specific help.
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My lights for both brake and signal are all red. I've looked for a converter and I don't have one. Just puzzling drivers side is good and it has both the brake and signal tied together at the socket as per the wiring diagram.
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09-23-2020, 09:39 PM
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[QUOTE=patrickemb;5452888]
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Originally Posted by Jon_C
My lights for both brake and signal are all red. I've looked for a converter and I don't have one. Just puzzling drivers side is good and it has both the brake and signal tied together at the socket as per the wiring diagram.
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Ok i have not seen a diagram like that may have to see if anyone else is familiar with that setup.
So brake and signal are the same bulb on both coach and toad, correct?
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09-24-2020, 05:37 PM
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Not sure about the toads bulbs. Really doesn't matter with the toad because the drivers side on it works as it should.
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09-24-2020, 05:54 PM
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My 2005 MountainAire 4032 had the same problem. I had a short on the toad when I ran the wires back to the tail lights. This blew a fuse on the motorhome.
My motorhome actually has two different circuits that control the rear lights - one for the motorhome lights and one for the "trailer" lights.
There is a post on here somewhere that had the wiring diagram and pointed me to the correct fuse in the bay right below the driver.
I found and fixed the short on the toad and replaced the blown fuse on the motorhome and was good to go.
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09-24-2020, 06:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickemb
Not sure about the toads bulbs. Really doesn't matter with the toad because the drivers side on it works as it should.
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Ok i was just trying to get info to help you. I wired trailers for 8 years at a RV dealership. Hope you get it fixed!
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09-24-2020, 07:00 PM
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Have you verified that the wire at the motorhome end of the connection is blinking using your meter?
If so, then the problem is in your toad.
If so, run a new wire connecting to the motorhome tail/signal light socket and on back to the rear of the car to the passenger side signal/tail light.
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09-26-2020, 05:40 PM
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Got it all straightened out. Ran new wire to everything at the coach. Took out the old wiring out and made it much cleaner.
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