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09-07-2016, 08:55 PM
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09-12-2016, 08:13 AM
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X2 on the 007 advice. We seemed to have to clean our filters too often to keep the A/C from freezing up due to lack of air flow. Pulled shroud off, and removed cover and was very surprised at how dirty the coils were. Did a Simple Green clean and wash, added some Reflectix insulation to air box on roof unit, and could really tell the difference. Not the easiest job, but paid real dividends.
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09-12-2016, 01:38 PM
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Newmar Owners Club Spartan Chassis
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Location: Lake Wales, FL (Lake Ashton RV Community)
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Originally Posted by joelyn5
Newmar parts folks suggested that I twist the vent slightly while pulling down. Seems to help. Haven't broken one while doing that.
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2x
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2019 Mountain Aire 4534 and a 2017 Ford Expedition 4x4
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09-15-2016, 06:11 AM
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Senior Member
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Also, If the filters are dirty, it cuts down on air flow and output from the A/C / HP system. On a real hot day, that can make a difference.
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Bill & Denise
2014 Bay Star 3103 - 5 Star Tune, CHF, Magne Shade
2017 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara
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09-15-2016, 08:26 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Canton, MI
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Was at Newmar the other day and they have the filters in their small display area for $1:00 each. The whole plastic vent itself was only $2.00 so I bought a couple spares in case I break one while trying to get the filters out. Spent $8.00 for eight filters and $4.00 for two spare vents. Couldn't get over how cheap they were.
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05-13-2020, 02:23 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Depends on the weather
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AC Return Air Filters
I had an appliance tech working on my washing machine today and while he was in our coach asked about the AC filters. He said the black filters Newmar uses will break down over time and small black particles will get sucked up into the coils. He recommended that we use regular pleated AC/Furnace filters and put them in the rectangular box (12 x 5 x 2.25 deep) that is covered by the black material. Has anyone ever replaced the "stock" filters with another product (like 3M Filtrete, Aqua-Flo, Vega AC, etc.)?
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Eric and Linda
2016 Newmar Ventana 4369 (Full Timers since May 2016)
2022 GMC Canyon & 2015 Co-Motion Equator Tandem
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05-13-2020, 03:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joelyn5
Newmar parts folks suggested that I twist the vent slightly while pulling down. Seems to help. Haven't broken one while doing that.
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This is exactly how I do it and in 9 years on two Newmars I haven't managed to break or crack one of them yet....knock on wood...now I'll break the next one I take out!
But I have to say that the design of these things is pretty poor and un-user friendly. Maybe I have bigger fingers, but getting a grip on that darned thing has me spreading the vent slats bending them around my fingers. And those little thin filters take almost no time at all to get dirty. Net, one of my very least favorite things is going around the RV every 2nd or 3rd day popping those things off and cleaning a bunch of little filters. I know my basement central air in my two Winnebago Journey's weren't trouble free for everyone that had them (they were for me) but I just loved easily plunking a standard home furnace filter on that air duct once in a while vs this process.
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05-13-2020, 03:38 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by woodosgood
I had an appliance tech working on my washing machine today and while he was in our coach asked about the AC filters. He said the black filters Newmar uses will break down over time and small black particles will get sucked up into the coils. He recommended that we use regular pleated AC/Furnace filters and put them in the rectangular box (12 x 5 x 2.25 deep) that is covered by the black material. Has anyone ever replaced the "stock" filters with another product (like 3M Filtrete, Aqua-Flo, Vega AC, etc.)?
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Wow! This is a 4-yr-old post but I guess things like this don't change! The filters held up very well for us in using our motorhome for 8 full-timing years, traveling constantly and changing them often. We bought an extra set so that we could replace them right away as soon as we removed the dirty one. We always cleaned all of them while we were at it. Doesn't take long. When all were removed and replaced we then washed them and let them dry good before packing away in a baggie for the next time. They didn't break down.
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Traveled 8 yr in a 2004 Newmar Dutch Star 40' Diesel
& 8 yr in a 33' Travel Supreme 5th wheel
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05-13-2020, 06:58 PM
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Senior Member
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Higher quality filters are available from the company linked below. Not cheap, but you get what you pay for.
https://rvair.com
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Larry & Amy Beckner
Scottsdale, AZ
2022 Newmar Super Star 4061
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05-14-2020, 05:35 AM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
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Location: Rochester, NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LWBAZ
Higher quality filters are available from the company linked below. Not cheap, but you get what you pay for.
https://rvair.com
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Great find. A better filter is important with recirculated air. One more project while we are stuck at home a couple more weeks.
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Steve, Joanne and Tyler (rescued Australian Cattle Dog)
2018 Canyon Star 3901, 2020 Ventana 4362, Grand Cherokee, TST TPMS, Air Force One
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05-14-2020, 05:55 AM
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Not to mess with you guys - but if you are into really "Filtering" your air some thing like this would work fine
https://www.amazon.com/Marineland-PA...et_feature_div
I know it's an Aquarium Water Filter medium but it work work fine for your A/C's air filters.
Just one Cheaper way to do the same thing - if you really feal the Need.
JOMO,
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Location - Grasonville, Maryland - and/or - Superior, Colorado
2005 Travel Supreme 42DS04 - GX470 Toad
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06-02-2020, 10:20 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Northern Oklahoma
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Each time I clean the bedroom and living area ceiling AC vents I always wonder why Newmar ever designed the outlet/return vents right next to each other in the ceiling. Seems a little counter productive in order to get the cool air all over the coach then return. My last coach, Itasca Meridian, had outlets in the ceiling and the return on the floor level and worked very well. Maybe this is some of the reason RVers question getting 3 roof airs for the 40 footers in order to cool appropreately on hot summer days.
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2015 Dutch Star 4018
2017 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
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06-03-2020, 06:18 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Grasonville, MD -- Golden, CO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wagonmaster2
Each time I clean the bedroom and living area ceiling AC vents I always wonder why Newmar ever designed the outlet/return vents right next to each other in the ceiling. Seems a little counter productive in order to get the cool air all over the coach then return. My last coach, Itasca Meridian, had outlets in the ceiling and the return on the floor level and worked very well. Maybe this is some of the reason RVers question getting 3 roof airs for the 40 footers in order to cool appropriately on hot summer days.
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In your Itasca Meridian - I'm pretty sure it had a Basement System - so the air circulates from the "Basement". - Where the Newmar has a "Roof" System and the air is only circulating in the roof. -
Two different Systems that just are very Different, one of the main reasons for putting it on the roof is to Give You mre Basement Storage Area.
Interestingly enough - I suspect that soon they will both be replaced by The Inverter A/C system that allows a much more efficient and Quiet Heating and A/C System, and distributes air from just about anywhere you want.
JMHO,
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Location - Grasonville, Maryland - and/or - Superior, Colorado
2005 Travel Supreme 42DS04 - GX470 Toad
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