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Old 09-20-2015, 04:04 PM   #1
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Advice needed - Leveling question

I keep my coach on a concrete pad next to the house. The pad has a 4 inch drop away from the house for run off purposes. During the auto level process, the dually wheels come off the pad about an inch on the low side of the pad. The tag appears to still be in contact with the pad. I have both tag wheels chocked. I've read where its not smart to have rear wheels off the ground, so my question is what are my options? Is this a condition I will have to accept or are there somethings I can do? Advice will be appreciated.....
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Old 09-20-2015, 04:26 PM   #2
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Four-inch drive-on blocks on the low side should do the trick. You can either buy plastic leveling blocks or make up some wooden ones, stacking a pair of 2X10s with a 1" plywood spacer in the middle.
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Old 09-20-2015, 04:31 PM   #3
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Couple things I will suggest;

1) They say that parking rubber on concrete is not good for the rubber because of chemical reaction between the rubber and the concrete. I would create wooden blocks for the wheels. They will be large enough to keep the wheels off of the concrete including the inside dual on the drive axle and long enough so the tag and drive axle are on the same block. The front tires will require smaller blocks.

2) I would build a thicker block for the low side and a thin block for the high side. I would use 1/4 inch plywood for the high side and a thicker block made from laminating 2" lumber for the low side.

If you make the pad for the front wheels large enough to include the jack it will be on the same block as the wheels. Same for the rear wheels. Make the block large enough so the drive and tag axle are on the block as well as the jack.

This will keep the tires off of the concrete and the wheels will be on the same block as the jack.

You should be able to drive onto a 4" block but I would create a transition so the climb on is easier.

I can see the blocks clearly in my mind but the description may be not as clear. Hope this helps.
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Old 09-20-2015, 04:34 PM   #4
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I keep my coach on a concrete pad next to the house. The pad has a 4 inch drop away from the house for run off purposes. During the auto level process, the dually wheels come off the pad about an inch on the low side of the pad. The tag appears to still be in contact with the pad. I have both tag wheels chocked. I've read where its not smart to have rear wheels off the ground, so my question is what are my options? Is this a condition I will have to accept or are there somethings I can do? Advice will be appreciated.....
I know you'll get contrary opinions, but if the high side wheels rear tires and the low side TAG are still touching the ground, I wouldn't be concerned. That's still a lot of brakes holding you in place.
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Old 09-20-2015, 09:44 PM   #5
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I know you'll get contrary opinions, but if the high side wheels rear tires and the low side TAG are still touching the ground, I wouldn't be concerned. That's still a lot of brakes holding you in place.
Agreed, if your DP has air brakes they are engaged at each wheel position with the air system un-pressurized. With hydraulic brakes that would not be the case.

However if you're still concerned I'd do as some other posters suggested and put a few inches of leveling blocks on the low side tires. I had a 6" drop on one front tire at the old S&B and used a ramp made of 2x lumber to raise it. Worked well for both coaches we used it for.

Not sure about the concrete vs tire thing, we stored all our RV's on concrete and did not have an issue in ten years, maybe it's because we used them at least once per month, even in winter!
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Agreed, if your DP has air brakes they are engaged at each wheel position with the air system un-pressurized. With hydraulic brakes that would not be the case.
Only the drive axle brakes have the dual action "cans" that provide both service brakes and parking/emergency brakes.
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Old 09-20-2015, 10:18 PM   #7
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With hydraulic leveler son the ground the coach is not going anywhere. The drive axle off the ground is only an issue with the older kick-up jacks..
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Advice needed - Leveling question

You should keep the wheels bearing weight not only for parking brake effectiveness, but also because it is not good long term to have the weight of the wheel and tire hanging on the suspension.

Also, the tires should not be parked long term on any porous surface-- dirt, concrete, wood, etc., lest the natural rubber oils leach out of the tire due to inactivity. I've made up 3/4" plywood pieces for each wheel set with fairly hefty plastic sheet attached, like a plastic laminating sheet, or some of those flexible cutting board pieces.


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Thanks for all the inputs....just for peace of mind I'm going to make some wooden blocks to put under the tires. It bothers me seeing the wheels suspended in air.

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