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Old 07-15-2008, 10:11 AM   #1
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Hi,

We are about to begin a fulltime journey with our three kids. I posted this question in another forum, but the question leads me to ask something further of the fulltimers.

First though, we have been looking at the Allstar 4154 with bunks, but haven't been able to physically look inside one. someone mentioned that the Master BR clearance is only 6 ft, so I won't be able to stand up since I'm 4 inches taller than that. Does anyone have experience with this? We like the other features, such as the bunks and the Captain's Chairs behind the passenger seat, but the clearance is another issue, especially on a 12 month journey. Then again, the price is really good.

That leads me to ask this of fulltimers: now that you've been on the road are there any little things that you said "no problem" to but now are causing a problem or annoyance now that you've been on the road fulltime? How about choosing a gas over a diesel?

Thanks for your help.

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Hi,

We are about to begin a fulltime journey with our three kids. I posted this question in another forum, but the question leads me to ask something further of the fulltimers.

First though, we have been looking at the Allstar 4154 with bunks, but haven't been able to physically look inside one. someone mentioned that the Master BR clearance is only 6 ft, so I won't be able to stand up since I'm 4 inches taller than that. Does anyone have experience with this? We like the other features, such as the bunks and the Captain's Chairs behind the passenger seat, but the clearance is another issue, especially on a 12 month journey. Then again, the price is really good.

That leads me to ask this of fulltimers: now that you've been on the road are there any little things that you said "no problem" to but now are causing a problem or annoyance now that you've been on the road fulltime? How about choosing a gas over a diesel?

Thanks for your help.

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Old 07-15-2008, 10:35 AM   #3
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Howard RV has one and its listed on there web site with pictures Hope this helps
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:45 AM   #4
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Thanks, that's where we heard about the ceiling issue.

What Newmar do you own?

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Old 07-15-2008, 02:13 PM   #5
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Hi Tom,
We do not full time. We spend about 6 months total a year in the coach. Between 2 and 3 months is with grand children and a set of parents or two. I have had up to 9 people sleeping in the coach . You are on the right track with bunk beds. This big problem for me is having to:
1. turn all the furniture into beds every night
2. turn all the furniture into furniture every morning.

I am now considering the 4159 model of tha AllStar. Like you, I need to see a coach before I can consider buying it. We have a service appointment scheduled for Nappanee the same time a 4159 is coming off the production line.

There is something else you may want to consider.
1. Get the 09 AllStar brochure. There are several floor plans with bunk beds.
2. If concerns remain, contact Newmar. They are very flexable with floorplans on the AllStar line. The space behind the rear wheels can be made just about anyway you want it.
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Old 07-15-2008, 02:19 PM   #6
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GaryKD:
I am now considering the 4159 model of tha AllStar. Like you, I need to see a coach before I can consider buying it. We have a service appointment scheduled for Nappanee the same time a 4159 is coming off the production line.
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We may see you there. We are thinking about driving up from GA to see one in person. The one on the line then is on order for Aloha RV (where we got ours).
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Old 07-15-2008, 02:42 PM   #7
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Nathan, look forward to seeing you in Nappanee.
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Have you all looked at the 4156? It has TWO master bedrooms with the rear one having two slides! The second rear room can be set up with a KING bed or four or five bunks, whatever, etc. We have a similiar setup with our 4153 which has a rear garage/bedroom. We just returned from seven weeks with two grandchildren. They had their own private bedroom with AC, TV, computer, private outside entrance, etc.! No daily setup/setdown just bring in the slides and go!

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We walked through one of these while at the factory in Feb. We do not like it for a few reasons.

1. split bath with open shower
2. smaller coach
3. loss of on captain chair
4. loss of the w/d that we use as a large pantry
5. it does not have the large dinette

just another example that there is a perfect coach for everyone...
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nathan Focht:
We walked through one of these while at the factory in Feb. We do not like it for a few reasons.

1. split bath with open shower
2. smaller coach
3. loss of on captain chair
4. loss of the w/d that we use as a large pantry
5. it does not have the large dinette

just another example that there is a perfect coach for everyone... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

W/D fits nicely in the second bedroom(or large pantry). Dinette can be changed out(we ordered ours without furniture and custom made furniture)to whatever you want. Split bath provides private head. Actually its a larger coach(5" longer) with four slides versus one in the 4154, provding MUCH more floor space(roughly 25% more). But as you say to each his own.

With the 4156 you could change the normal bedroom into a bunk room and add second head, private showere or whatever. Newmar will do a lot of specials and if not order it without and add what you want!
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Tom,

You may want to look at the Dutchstar line. We are about to journey into fulltiming with two kids over the next couple of years. I personally looked at the 4154 and felt it was too cramped in the bedroom area and hallway where the bunks are located. The Dutchstar model has a King bed in the bedroom and bunks on the side as an option. After comparing the two side by side, the dutch star felt much more roomy especially when adding the kids to the picture. Good luck.
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Thanks, what does the Dutchstar price out at approximately?
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kneal:
Tom,

You may want to look at the Dutchstar line. We are about to journey into fulltiming with two kids over the next couple of years. I personally looked at the 4154 and felt it was too cramped in the bedroom area and hallway where the bunks are located. The Dutchstar model has a King bed in the bedroom and bunks on the side as an option. After comparing the two side by side, the dutch star felt much more roomy especially when adding the kids to the picture. Good luck. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You can also look at the Ventana 3942 bunkbed model, which I have. It's Newmar's "entry" level in their diesel pusher line.

The MSRP on ours was $230,000 and change. Expect at least 25% off of MSRP.

Newmar won't do "specials" on the Ventana line. Specials are options that aren't listed in the option list.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 69RoadRunner:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kneal:
Tom,

You may want to look at the Dutchstar line. We are about to journey into fulltiming with two kids over the next couple of years. I personally looked at the 4154 and felt it was too cramped in the bedroom area and hallway where the bunks are located. The Dutchstar model has a King bed in the bedroom and bunks on the side as an option. After comparing the two side by side, the dutch star felt much more roomy especially when adding the kids to the picture. Good luck. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You can also look at the Ventana 3942 bunkbed model, which I have. It's Newmar's "entry" level in their diesel pusher line.

The MSRP on ours was $230,000 and change. Expect at least 25% off of MSRP.

Newmar won't do "specials" on the Ventana line. Specials are options that aren't listed in the option list. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for the tip. I'll check into them.
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