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Old 03-20-2020, 07:46 AM   #1
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Anyone install a motorcycle carrier/ramp on their Bay Star?

I have a 2014 Newmar Bay Star Sport 2903 with upgraded F-53 20,500 chassis. I also have a 650lbs motorcycle I would like to haul on the back of my unit using a Class V receiver hitch.

Anyone have any experience with this? No, I haven't weighed by rig just yet (newby)
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The tongue weight is rated at 500 lb. i have a black widow carrier on the back for my bike but it only weighs 200lb. The max weight for a hitch carrier ive seen is 600lb. Unfortunately for heavy bikes like harleys, the only options are cruiserlifts or trailers, both in the thousands. another factor is that the hitch on a baystar is really high, making loading and unloading difficult. i use drop down receivers to manage it, but its a fine line between height and bottoming out.
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Old 05-01-2020, 02:18 PM   #3
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Thanks Fred, agree.

My 2014 BMW R1200RT is 610lbs and I'm looking at the CruiserLift product. I'm in the process of using a formula to determine whether or not my Bay Star Sport 2904 (upgraded 20,500 lbs., F-53 chassis) will support it adding an extra receiver or two. Nice thing about the CruiserLift is it raises/lowers the ramp using a winch system and electric (not hydraulic) motor.

My fall-back plan is a Suzuki Burgman 400 ABS which weighs ~490lbs
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Old 05-26-2020, 07:27 AM   #4
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Update.

Weighed my Bay Star Sport 2903 with full tank of fuel and fresh water. After the formula from CruiserLift, I have about 600 lbs. of weight remaining on the rear axle to support the lift/bike.

Any opinions on how much stuff I can put in the rear of my RV before I max out the gross [rear] axle weight rating (GAWR) of 13,500 lbs.?

I'm also considering some rear axle suspension and steering modifications in support of the Cruiserlift, like these:
1. SumoSprings for 2014 Ford F-53 Part # SSR-187-54-1
2. Roadmaster Rear Anti-sway Bar for 2014 Ford F-53 Part # RM-1139-145, and
3. Roadmaster Reflex Steering Stabilizer Part # RM-RBK22-RSSA
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How about just purchasing a TandemTow. You can haul your motorcycle plus a FWD vehicle. If the dolly plate is adjusted correctly for your car/truck/SUV on the dolly you can have around 400 pounds of tongue weight.
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Old 05-26-2020, 08:29 AM   #6
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Yes, looking at that tandem tow, it seems like a good option for carrying a bike and towing a car. cost is high, $4K, and delivery requires use of a forklift. As a aside, i decided to tow dolly my car, for health reasons, and there was no combination of hitch receivers that would let me carry the bike and the dolly. The bike carrier always extended over the dolly hitch, making it impossible to unhook the dolly. So, I sold the bike. Luckily, i got what i wanted for it.
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Old 09-03-2020, 07:45 AM   #7
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Update: installed the CruiserLift.

After filling my 80 gal fuel tank and my 75 gal water tank with my 605 Lbs. motorcycle on the lift, I had ~50 Lbs.. remaining on the rear axle, a far cry from the 600 Lbs. determined when I used the CruiserLift formula. As it stands, I do not have enough carrying weight to support clothes, shoes/boots, food & other items.

Oddly enough when I drove to the nearest weigh station with my motorcycle on the CruiserLift and with the new SumoSprings installed the coach drove like a dream, with no excess sag. A testament to the SumoSprings product.

Now to decide whether or not I'll stick with the CruiserLift and limit how much water I put in my fresh tank and/or transport a lighter motorcycle/scooter, or punt to a 5' x 8' enclosed motorcycle trailer.
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Hydralift MC lift

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I have gone 8000 miles and no problems.
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I have gone 8000 miles and no problems.
His BayStar will not handle a hydralift. Or a cruiser lift for that matter.
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I have gone 8000 miles and no problems.
Still happy with your lift ?
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Update: installed the CruiserLift.

After filling my 80 gal fuel tank and my 75 gal water tank with my 605 Lbs. motorcycle on the lift, I had ~50 Lbs.. remaining on the rear axle, a far cry from the 600 Lbs. determined when I used the CruiserLift formula. As it stands, I do not have enough carrying weight to support clothes, shoes/boots, food & other items.

Oddly enough when I drove to the nearest weigh station with my motorcycle on the CruiserLift and with the new SumoSprings installed the coach drove like a dream, with no excess sag. A testament to the SumoSprings product.

Now to decide whether or not I'll stick with the CruiserLift and limit how much water I put in my fresh tank and/or transport a lighter motorcycle/scooter, or punt to a 5' x 8' enclosed motorcycle trailer.
So, with the weight of the CruisLift and the motorcycle you're about 200 pounds over the 500 pound weight rating of the hitch?
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No. My 2014 Newmar Bay Star Sport 2903 came with a class III receiver hitch with a 500 Lbs tongue weight capacity. As part of installing the CruiserLift, I had the receiver hitch upgraded to a class IV (1,000 Lbs tongue weight max capacity) receiver hitch.
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I didn't know that installing a more robust receiver would increase the manufacturers load rating. I thought the hitch rating was limited by the capacity of the frame extensions and not by the receiver itself. My mistake.
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Before I got my current RV, I used an enclosed cargo trailer for my bike. Loved that setup as the bike was out of the elements and secured, even at campgrounds. The only drawback was the lack of a toad for bad weather days.

Even though I now have a class A toyhauler, I have kept the trailer. It doesn't cost anything to feed it and I can use it to haul the bike in for service or even the lawn mower. Several friends have used it with their RVs when we have gone on group trips where we used the RVs as base of operations for some interesting rides.

You didn't describe any potential toad for your setup. If you have a pickup, you can consider putting the bike in the bed and tow it all!
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