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Old 12-02-2016, 05:32 PM   #1
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Battery Replacement Advice.

Hubby casually mentioned that he wants to replace 2 of the 4 house batteries before we head South. It seems, I remember reading that all 4 batteries should be changed at the same time. Of course, I can't find the thread now that we need the information. Any battery experts know the answer? If it makes a difference, we have the type that he puts water in every month or so. Also, would appreciate any suggestions on best brands.
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Old 12-02-2016, 05:35 PM   #2
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Hubby casually mentioned that he wants to replace 2 of the 4 house batteries before we head South. It seems, I remember reading that all 4 batteries should be changed at the same time. Of course, I can't find the thread now that we need the information. Any battery experts know the answer? If it makes a difference, we have the type that he puts water in every month or so. Also, would appreciate any suggestions on best brands.
Thanks in advance for your advice.
Why just 2 of them??
How old are they?
Yes, all 4 of them should be replaced so they are all new and equal.........
The first thing I would do is remove the 4 of them(After they have a good charge on them) and take them and have they "Load Tested" to see what their condition is.
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Thanks, palehorse. He mentioned 2, because 2 lose the water faster & get hot. Not certain how old...best guess is 5-6 years.
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X2 what palehorse said, sounds like they may be 4 6volt? generally when mixing batteries the weakest link is still the older batteries and may be OK for a while but its a short term fix.
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If there was a problem with 2 of 4, ONE year old batteries, then maybe change only the two.

With 5 or 6 years on them, you will be changing the others soon anyway.

Rather then chance damaging the 2 new ones, it's best to change them all.

Another option, if you plug in every night, is to unhook the bad ones and go with 2.
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I can't find the post either, but I know I read it before replacing my house batteries. I KNOW they should always all be replaced at the same time and if some are getting hot that's absolutely must be done, now!

I buy 6-volt golf cart batteries at Costco or Sam's Cub and connect them in pairs. That increases capacity for about $85 each.
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Thanks, palehorse. He mentioned 2, because 2 lose the water faster & get hot. Not certain how old...best guess is 5-6 years.
Those 2 are shorted out internally and are shot.....heading toward complete failure and robbing voltage/power from the other 2 in the bank. This is also very hard on the engine's alternator(Running really HOT, as it is operating at 100% output)......as those 2 are requiring a lot of charging and that is the cause of water loss.
Replace all 4 of them and be done with it..........
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At the risk of hijacking this thread, my recently acquired 2014 DS has 8 batteries. All is good now but does the "replace all" apply to all 8 house batteries. That sounds expensive.
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At the risk of hijacking this thread, my recently acquired 2014 DS has 8 batteries. All is good now but does the "replace all" apply to all 8 house batteries. That sounds expensive.
Like mentioned above, if they are only a year or two old, and all the others load test good.........it would be OK ro just replace the bad ones.
After use and years have passed with a lot of use, good advice, and to avoid problems down the road, replace them all and take off with a fresh set..............
Those 8 batteries are not expensive........when comparing the cost of them to the cost of your Coach.......
They are your Coachs life line!
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Also, would appreciate any suggestions on best brands.
Thanks in advance for your advice.
I just replaced my four 6 volt house batteries today with Trogan T-105's. I see you're in Rockford. I bought them from Ellis Sales (golf car sales) in Kalamazoo. They were $110 each with your old core. That's a really good price for Trogan batteries. The cheapest battery you'll find will probably be from Sam's Club for about $85.

Trogan probably makes the best deep cycle battery out there. Most Golf car mfg. use them.

It cost me $100 more to replace my batteries with Trogan T-105's versus Sam's brand. Over an estimated life span of 6 years that $100 seems small for the added quality of the Trogan batteries. JMHO
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I upgraded to Trojan T125s. Here is my update info with wiring diagram.
http://www.irv2.com/forums/f59/upgra...ml#post3358576
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At the risk of hijacking this thread, my recently acquired 2014 DS has 8 batteries. All is good now but does the "replace all" apply to all 8 house batteries. That sounds expensive.
I've read that replacing part of the battery bank is going to cost you more in the long run. It wears out batteries much faster. Nobody said RVing is cheap.

The way I understand it the way to get the most life out of batteries is to keep the water filled, never let them discharge below 70% and replace all of them at the same time. I have a Trimetric battery monitor to keep track of battery and charging status.

I'll probably look at Trojans next time if I can find a good deal. In addition to quality they have a higher amp hour rating.

Maybe Santa will bring you 8 new batteries next Christmas, that is if you're not on his naughty list.
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Thank you.

Thanks all, for the knowledgeable feedback. I knew we would get the right advice here. Rotten red, thanks for the specific info. We're picking up 4 next week.
And, if Santa brings me 8 new batteries, I hope there's a DS attached.
yes, I've been good.
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Should consider AGM TYPE batteries and not have to do this ever again.
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