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Old 07-29-2015, 08:59 PM   #1
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Buy new MADP or Tiffin 45LP

7-28-15 can buy a 2015 new mountain air vs 2015 Tiffin 45LP bus $100,000 difference is the Mountain Aire worth $100,000 more? Both new!
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:01 PM   #2
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That's almost impossible for anyone but you to answer since we don't know how you are going to use it, your finances and what you think of each unit.
We've had two Newmars and should have bought a third rather than the Magna. But we'd have had to buy a King Aire to match the Magna's quality and equipment.
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Old 07-29-2015, 11:34 PM   #3
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New is great, if one can afford it. But you still lose all that money in depreciation. I don't know who likes doing that! 😜 I can't afford new, but I really have very few complaints on my 96 Intrigue. Inside is perfect, engine isn't even broke in yet, and I only paid around 15% of the cost, compared too new. 😜


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Old 07-30-2015, 04:37 AM   #4
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I didn't see a similar post on the Tiffin pages. I will remain interested in the maybe one sided responses...
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My last coach was a 2005 Tiffin Allegro Bus, which I bought new...when I replaced it in 2014 I did so with a 2014 Newmar MA, if you have any specific questions you can send e a PM or email and I will try to answer them.
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Why don't you try comparing a Dutch Star to the Allegro Bus? They are much more similar than a Mountain Aire and a Bus. A Tiffin Zephyr and a Mountain Aire are more similat.
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New is great, if one can afford it. But you still lose all that money in depreciation. I don't know who likes doing that! �� I can't afford new, but I really have very few complaints on my 96 Intrigue. Inside is perfect, engine isn't even broke in yet, and I only paid around 15% of the cost, compared too new. ��


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Not sure how this is helping the op out. Some like to buy new. There's a whole lot of difference between a 96 vs 2016 coach.

As for which one, there both really nice coaches. For us it would probably come down to the floorplan that best meet our wants and needs in a new coach.

Really can't see you going wrong with either one.
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Interested to see where this goes as well. I am happy with my Tiffin and the way that it is screwed together, but always seem to find myself looking that the Newmars at the shows. I do like the kitchen on the driver's side in the 45LP. I'd prefer the freightliner chassis (more serviceability down the road) and the comfort drive, but I cannot say that those items plus the relatively small increase in quality of the Newmar is worth 36,000 gallons of diesel fuel.
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I didn't see a similar post on the Tiffin pages. I will remain interested in the maybe one sided responses...
By forum rules, we are not supposed to make "duplicate" posts on alternative forums. I do agree that the answers here may be a little one-sided, so perhaps moving this thread to the Class A forum is in order.
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The Mountain Aire wil have 500 HP ISX and 4000 Trans which is far better drive line then the Tiffin. Better build and higher resale also with the Newmar. Do you want to go to Red Bay often?
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In my experience Newmars quality is superior to Tiffin. Also as posted above the MA has a bigger powerplant and transmission. I think its a no brainer
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As previously mentioned, comparing the Dutch Star to the Allegro Bus is a better comparison and then the price difference wouldn't be as glaring between the two.

I just went through that DS/Allegro Bus comparison and decided on Newmar for the following reasons:

1) Quality Reputation
2) Comfort Drive (LOVE IT!)
3) Being able to customize it (even outside paint colors)
4) Interactions with my Newmar Dealer
5) Interactions with Newmar corp.
6) Full wall slide

7) Not applicable to you: tag axle on a 40ft.

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Birddog- you can't compare a Tiffin Allegro Bus to a Newmar Mountain Aire $$$$$$ & F&B wise- it's like Apples to Oranges- A Tiffin Allegro Bus should be compared to a Newmar Dutch Star & a Newmar Mountain Aire to a Tiffin Zepher. Similarly equipped they will be close price point wise. You can see what I chose!

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The Mountain Aire wil have 500 HP ISX and 4000 Trans which is far better drive line then the Tiffin. Better build and higher resale also with the Newmar. Do you want to go to Red Bay often?
I agree the duch star has moved up into allegro bus territory, while the mountain aire is more along the zepher line comparing apples and oranges. If you compare equal coaches the price will be much closer. We had an allegro bus drove great but the build methods tiffin uses leaves something to consider we did and bought an entegra.
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