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Old 11-25-2022, 12:19 PM   #1
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Camping in cold weather with exposed water lines under Bay Star slide

I think Iím all ready for the cold (mid-20ís) but now Iím wondering about these exposed water lines underneath the slide out. I have a 2023 Bay Star 3014, but I think they have been making them like this forever. I see they are wrapped in insulation, butÖanything i need to worry about or do? Thanks!

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Old 11-25-2022, 02:18 PM   #2
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FWIW, I have a 2022 Baystar 3226 and recently camped in Missouri in temperatures at least that cold. (It was 17 degrees the morning we left). All I did was bring in the water supply hose, and turn on the tank heaters. (Of course I also had the furnace on). The owner's manual says these coaches have a heater outlet in the water compartment, but Mine does not. However, the furnace is right above the water compartment and it was toasty throughout. Your furnace may be in a different place and you may have a heater outlet in the compartment. I would check if i were you. Other than that, I did nothing special and we went like that for several days on our trip home with no problems.

A couple of observations. Some Newmars have a heated floor for a huge extra costs. To my great surprise, once the weather got too cold for the heat pumps, the furnace heated our floors too (throughout the bedroom and out to the middle of the couch in the living room). It was a nice surprise! When you are on heat pump, it takes quite a while for hot water to reach the bathroom. When the furnace is on you have warm water almost immediately - from the hot and cold faucets<G>! The water lines run alongside the heating conduits. The bedroom tends to be warmer than the rest of the coach. We turn down the heat a bit when we go to bed and turn it up a bit when we get up in the morning.

We have never camped in really cold weather before. We were pleasantly surprised by how easy it was and how comfortable. As a result, we are now planning to take the coach back to Nappanee this Winter for service work. My wife is totally on board with this which is a good measure of how easy cold weather camping has proven to be for us.

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Is there more than one water line? On our dutchstar the waterline to the ice maker in the fridge is exposed similar to yours. There is a waterline turn off inside the basement to this line, and we turn it off when in freezing weather to avoid issues.
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Is there more than one water line? On our dutchstar the waterline to the ice maker in the fridge is exposed similar to yours. There is a waterline turn off inside the basement to this line, and we turn it off when in freezing weather to avoid issues.
If his is like mine (and it probably is) there is a shut off under the sink in the slide. We have not shut that off because it has not been a problem, but the hot water heater is also under the sink in the slide which probably helps on that...

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Camping in cold weather with exposed water lines under Bay Star slide

Thanks, all! The hot and cold water lines are exposed on the outside. With temps dipping down tomorrow, I decided to wrap them in insulation. That should take care of it. Newmar wrapped the pipes, so this is an added precaution. It just seems like a strange engineering solution to expose outside your coach the hot and cold water pipes running to your kitchen faucet.
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I assume you're wrapping the whole plastic track that holds the lines with insulation. That will slow down the cold getting to the water lines to some extent, but may not keep them from freezing. The cold is around the full 360* diameter of the water lines for about 30" of length and there is no heat source to keep the lines from freezing. Insulation primarily separates warm air from cold air. You have warm air inside the coach slide and warm air in the basement area that keeps the lines there from freezing in those areas.

I would get a 6' heat tape and place it on the plastic track, then wrap the insulation, that way you have a heat source where the lines are.
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Good point. Thanks for suggesting the heat tape!
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All of the exposed water lines on my 2019 Canyon Star are electrically heated. They are controlled by thermostats mounted in the propane tank bay. No operator action is necessary for their activation when the temps get low enough.

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