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03-13-2019, 11:38 AM
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Newmar Owners Club
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OP, I think you asked if it is ok to dump airbags and not deploy jacks. This is the condition most coaches go into when in storage. The bags deflate and the coach sets on the suspension stops. Since the system is designed to function this way, I think you would be ok just dumping air and not deploying jacks.
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03-13-2019, 07:07 PM
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#16
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Newmar Owners Club Nor'easters Club Spartan Chassis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JMH
OP, I think you asked if it is ok to dump airbags and not deploy jacks. This is the condition most coaches go into when in storage. The bags deflate and the coach sets on the suspension stops. Since the system is designed to function this way, I think you would be ok just dumping air and not deploying jacks.
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I used to think that my coach should just be able to sit on the suspension when stored but after researching it, this is what Spartan says, don't know if different for other chassis;
"CHASSIS STORAGE AND PERIODS OF NON-USE
If your vehicle is not driven for more than 30 days, maintenance requirements may change. Some types of fluid degrade under certain conditions and some components require special attention during and after long intervals of non-use. Note: Periods of inactivity which exceed 3 months in conjunction with ambient temperatures greater than, or equal to, 86° F (30° C) may cause degradation of the diesel exhaust fluid (DEF). DEF must be drained, properly discarded, and replaced. Simply topping off the DEF may impact emissions performance. Please review the Final Stage Manufacturer’s Manual and the following chassis component manufacturer’s literature for storage guidelines specific to your circumstances:
Battery
Engine
Transmission
Wheels
Tires
Exhaust Brake (may be included in the engine manual)
In addition, the vehicle should be safely secured on the leveling jacks in accordance with the Final Stage Manufacturer instructions."
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03-14-2019, 05:48 AM
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I'm quite sure there are coaches on dealers lots that sit for longer than 3 months. I really doubt they go through any more prep than a pressure wash now and then.
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03-14-2019, 10:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by C.Martin
I look at the Jacks as another level of safety...
If your tanks still have air pressure, transmission in neutral, jacks retracted, and a pet or child accidentally pushes in the parking brake knob...I wonder where the coach might roll???
Jacks Down, or drain the air tanks so the Spring Brakes (Parking) cannot be released... Something to prevent the coach from rolling.
I also put a Guard on my Parking Brake control...so it cannot be released.
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Is that guard home-made or did you purchase? I've got a young grandson who like to play grandpa with the controls...
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03-14-2019, 11:03 AM
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Location: Muskoka Ontario Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DrPhil
Is that guard home-made or did you purchase? I've got a young grandson who like to play grandpa with the controls...
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Just pump the air brakes down with the pedal. Its impossible for the rear brakes to release with no air in the system.
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03-14-2019, 11:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by winniman
Just pump the air brakes down with the pedal. Its impossible for the rear brakes to release with no air in the system.
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Pumping down the air won't help while setting up or breaking down camp, with the engine running.
The darn thing keeps pumping it back up.
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03-14-2019, 11:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DrPhil
Is that guard home-made or did you purchase? I've got a young grandson who like to play grandpa with the controls...
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Here's my solution. It's cheap, has a stiffer spring than most young hands and is easily found at HD or Lowe's.
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03-14-2019, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Tranquil Jim
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We really like that step too. It's built like a tank. DW has some mobility probs and we usually use it with the legs folded next to the bed which is a little high for her. When our steps end up a little high off the ground it is an excellent safety device. If the ground outside your door isn't level you can set the adjustable legs at different lengths to level out the platform on sloping ground.
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03-14-2019, 07:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by winniman
Just pump the air brakes down with the pedal. Its impossible for the rear brakes to release with no air in the system.
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Great idea! Thanks!
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03-14-2019, 07:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FL420
Here's my solution. It's cheap, has a stiffer spring than most young hands and is easily found at HD or Lowe's.
Attachment 238047
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I like this too! Great ideas folks!
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03-14-2019, 07:24 PM
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The easiest way to ensure you have released enough air to activate the spring brakes is to pump and release the brake pedal with the Parking Brakes disengaged(knob pushed in.) When the brake knob pops up and won't stay down when you push on it you know the spring brakes have engaged.
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03-15-2019, 05:52 AM
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Here is what I use as an air brake guard. A simple chip clip. I was afraid that one of our dogs would hit the knob by accident
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03-15-2019, 10:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlaRider
Here is what I use as an air brake guard. A simple chip clip. I was afraid that one of our dogs would hit the knob by accident Attachment 238136
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I think I would be more comfortable with a sturdier clip with a stronger spring and jaws that completely surround the shaft. I looked at chip clips first and concluded they wouldn't do the job.
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03-15-2019, 11:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlaRider
Here is what I use as an air brake guard. A simple chip clip. I was afraid that one of our dogs would hit the knob by accident Attachment 238136
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I think that's a great idea! Just put one on mine.
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