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Old 07-09-2020, 07:35 AM   #15
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Old 07-09-2020, 08:43 PM   #18
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Its a shame sleep number do not put a safety valve on their RV products this would then give a fail safe method to people who forget which is easily done
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Old 07-10-2020, 10:01 PM   #19
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Its a shame sleep number do not put a safety valve on their RV products this would then give a fail safe method to people who forget which is easily done
I would think that would be hard to do...

Unless testing can show that the bladder fails consistently at a certain pressure ... at what pressure would you set the safety valve...???

Would you limit the weight capacity of the mattress...???

Sooner or later a rather heavy individual will want a firm mattress, and by plopping, rolling, or maybe even just relaxing on the bed... he could activate the safety valve and release air...

What if two people end up on one side of the bed.... wink, wink... and air is released...

What if there is some vigorous "activity" on the bed... again, wink, wink... and air is released...

I suspect the failures are at a low enough rate that they are willing to absorb the warranty and/or good will claims, to avoid the complexity and possible bad performance of a safety valve...

Of course, I could be wrong...
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I would think that would be hard to do...

Unless testing can show that the bladder fails consistently at a certain pressure ... at what pressure would you set the safety valve...???

Would you limit the weight capacity of the mattress...???

Sooner or later a rather heavy individual will want a firm mattress, and by plopping, rolling, or maybe even just relaxing on the bed... he could activate the safety valve and release air...

What if two people end up on one side of the bed.... wink, wink... and air is released...

What if there is some vigorous "activity" on the bed... again, wink, wink... and air is released...

I suspect the failures are at a low enough rate that they are willing to absorb the warranty and/or good will claims, to avoid the complexity and possible bad performance of a safety valve...

Of course, I could be wrong...



Good points made...wink..wink.



I am sure there is a pressure relief valve out there that could work but the cost would likely be quite high given the need to account for all the wiinking that does happen on these beds with varying weights of individuals and intensity of winking.
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I would think that would be hard to do...

Unless testing can show that the bladder fails consistently at a certain pressure ... at what pressure would you set the safety valve...???

Would you limit the weight capacity of the mattress...???

Sooner or later a rather heavy individual will want a firm mattress, and by plopping, rolling, or maybe even just relaxing on the bed... he could activate the safety valve and release air...

What if two people end up on one side of the bed.... wink, wink... and air is released...

What if there is some vigorous "activity" on the bed... again, wink, wink... and air is released...

I suspect the failures are at a low enough rate that they are willing to absorb the warranty and/or good will claims, to avoid the complexity and possible bad performance of a safety valve...

Of course, I could be wrong...
Think I'm beyond that now, wink wink!
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Old 07-11-2020, 08:51 PM   #22
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This thread is indeed fascinating! Not so much about Sleep Number (I don't have one) but the posters that talked about exploding potato chip bags, ketchup that shoots out, and toothpaste! Another poster mentioned swollen Tide bottles. Wonder what would happen with those new-fangled Tide pods? Since I've never traveled out West, this was VERY INTERESTING!
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The expansion of bottles and bags is a direct function of how much air/gas is in the container. No air all product, no pressure change!
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Good points made...wink..wink.


I am sure there is a pressure relief valve out there that could work but the cost would likely be quite high given the need to account for all the wiinking that does happen on these beds with varying weights of individuals and intensity of winking.
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Think I'm beyond that now, wink wink!

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Our last 5th wheel came with a King Sleep number bed and we were so excited when we go it.....after a couple of months we were so done with that bed.....not only were never really comfortable sleeping on it but as we RV primarily out west we had to add the "Deflate Bed" to our pre-departure chcklist.

Overall it was a complete PIA for us and we replaced with a very nice memory foam mattress that was so much more comfortable for us at least and no having to remember to deflate the bed on departure
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Our issue is we have had a couple of SC beds in our S&B house so we love the fact that She can be at 35 while require 95...can't do that with any other mattress without having twin beds which is a non-starter for us. After doing the air drainage prior to departure for 14 years we are quite used to it and it is just one more checklist item.
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