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Old 03-28-2018, 08:57 AM   #1
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Comfort Drive on a Ford f53 Chassis....why not??

I was just wondering if the TRW driver assist steering .."Comfort Drive" as Newmar calls it, can be added to the Ford F53 chassis? What a great move if Newmar would be able to do that. Just wondering...
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Comfort Drive on a Ford f53 Chassis....why not??

How about cost at the price point of the gasser market for one?
As Newmar has the right to use CD, Ford would have to build that 600 to 700 units with it exclusively for Newmar, this would not fit well with production, and likely drive cost per unit high.
The F53 has many contributing factors to it’s Ill handling in my opinion, just adding CD to it would not have as favorable an outcome as it does on the diesel platform. Why doesn’t Ford install rear track bars, heavier sway bars, steering dampeners, and Sumo springs?
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Old 03-28-2018, 03:24 PM   #3
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Agree with the Ford remarks. Of course they have no competition so they could care less. Would be nice to see the gasser manufactures like Newmar put pressure on Ford or take the reigns themselves, be proactive, and start offering better handling options. It's kind of an irritant that you spend a lot of money for a new MH and then have to spend a few thousand more right away to make a unit serviceable. Plus the hassle of doing the research, finding a dealer/installer. Companies like Newmar are actually failing their customers in this respect
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I would love to see Newmar offer a performance package option on the gassers. Why not, the parts are readily available, much easier to instal on the bare chassis than after the build. There is money to be made here.
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The F53 should not ship without a rear track bar. That is an easy fix that should be specified by Ford or the coach builder.

If Ford were to do something like comfort drive, they already have this to work with:
https://media.ford.com/content/fordm...rld-turns.html

It works well in my Ford Fusion.
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Just a thought here, you probably won’t ever see that. With the Canyon Star in the 200k range, they are knocking on the door of the Ventana LE.

I think Winnebago decided to kill their top of the line gassers for the same reason, at that price point, you are at DP line.
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Totally agree, I love the Canyon Star bunkhouse model. I lean toward diesel for my next motorhome for various reasons, but if a Canyon Star could be had with Comfort Drive and a full performance handling package, it might sway me.

I have done a lot of that stuff to my current F53 already (Koni shocks, F53 CHF, rear track bar) and plan to do Sumo springs next, but yeah, it would be great to be able to buy one with all that stuff pre-installed.

Tiffin now offers Sumo Springs as a factory option on their gassers, but AFAIK no one else does.
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Coachmen in their 2019 models are starting to put a rear track bar in.. Funny too I have a 2018 that I bought and immediately wanted to add rear track bar and steering stabilizer and damn if they didn't fight me on it and tell me i didn't need it. Did it anyways and now they come standard. I am thinking of doing sumo springs next.
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Coachmen in their 2019 models are starting to put a rear track bar in.. Funny too I have a 2018 that I bought and immediately wanted to add rear track bar and steering stabilizer and damn if they didn't fight me on it and tell me i didn't need it. Did it anyways and now they come standard. I am thinking of doing sumo springs next.
i put front and back sumo's on my georgetown XL on the 24K chassis, and it made a massive difference....

in the rear, make sure you use the ones that go outside the frame, vs. the jounce replacement application
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Along with some suspension changes, why not design a twin turbo charged v10 in a gas pusher? Ford already has everything except the changes in the chassis.

I would buy one in a heart beat.


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Going on our second trip with our Bay Star 3532. Just added Sumo Springs (front and rear) and Blue Ox TruCenter stabilizer. Looking for some good improvement. Drive before was OK but tiring with wind and road conditions. Would have loved to have these as options.
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I thought the BO True Center had been discontinued.
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I have 24K chassis on Bay Star, I added Koni, rear trac bar, and Safe-T-Plus and haven't had any tiring driving sessions so far.

I am going to do the CHF today, but I have been very happy with how it drives.

I would rather spend more money on a 9 way power driver seat with heating/cooling and massage at this point I have the 6 way, but would love to adjust the backrest via power as there is never the 'right spot' for me :(
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Along with some suspension changes, why not design a twin turbo charged v10 in a gas pusher? Ford already has everything except the changes in the chassis.

I would buy one in a heart beat. Steve
With 100% of the Class A gasser market, F has no incentive to invest in a gas pusher, IMO.

The Workhorse "UFO" gas pusher was a fantastic product with "revolutionary" suspension design and fantastic handling, but its price and the crash of 2008-09, along with the loss of the GM big block doomed it to history.
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