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Old 06-17-2021, 02:01 PM   #1
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Cost of "Specials"?

Trying to get together an order for a Bay Star coach and wondered if anyone else could give a ballpark figure on "specials."

We want to remove those bows and metal decorations from the valances and have all the valances covered in the same fabric. This would be for a total of seven windows.

I know it would be hard to quote an exact number but I am just looking to get an idea to decide whether it's worth it or not.

Thanks for any help!
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Old 06-17-2021, 02:06 PM   #2
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Every build will be different. It's best just to make a 'wish list'; get the quote and delete, if necessary.
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Old 06-17-2021, 06:11 PM   #3
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Unless someone did exactly what you want to do, there is no way to guess the price. Even if you find someone, prices have increased on everything. We submitted our "specials" and they priced them out for us. I thought they were reasonably priced for the few things we had done.
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Old 06-17-2021, 08:24 PM   #4
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Agree with Twogypsies. Doesnít cost anything to find out the cost. We will pickup our new coach on Monday. We had 6-7 specials included in our build. Most I thought were worth the charge. A couple I thought to be high but in the full scheme of things we were OK. One that I requested was not worth it to me.

One of the reasons we went with Newmar was the fact that Newmar WOULD DO special request. Neither Tiffin nor Entegra would entertain the thought.
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Old 06-17-2021, 08:55 PM   #5
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Thanks everyone---appreciate the input.
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Old 06-17-2021, 11:13 PM   #6
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Some of the specials are insane. Deleting the front license plate screws- $200. Adding an outlet-$250. Different sink in bath, $1000.

I decided to forgo newmar partly because of the insane prices. Also I found a better floor plan and specs for the same price in a tiffin.
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Old 06-20-2021, 09:03 AM   #7
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While I agree that some of the prices are high you need to remember that itís not just about the labor and materials used itís about the change in the process of the entire build that needs to be altered.

In EBís example of $200 to delete the front plate screws, the front cap needs have the changes communicated to the 3rd party that makes the cap, get it built through the just in time ordering process to assure that it hits the plant just before your coach starts its build. The factory doesnít have space for too many of those huge pieces just laying around.

The smaller items like deleting the do dads on interior trim, in our case swag deletion,requires that checks are made when the window coverings are made by the group that sews them up. Again this is outside the normal lines run.

So while one small item seems like itís not a big deal to us it is a huge deal for the line.

The special ordering program was one of the biggest reasons we bought a Newmar over the 2 main competitors when we ordered in early 2017.
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Old 06-20-2021, 03:00 PM   #8
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I am staring the customer order process on Friday for our first custom coach. Probably Dutch Star 4369. I am fully prepared to pay for everything I want changed and would be happy to get my final product just the way I want it.

If I feel Newmar's costs are high on a particular request I will consider my options such as doing it myself after delivery.

They are in a production business but offering custom products. They have to manage their processes and still make money. If they don't make money they wont be there in 2030 when we are ready to by another new coach.
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Old 06-20-2021, 03:11 PM   #9
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We had a total of 22 specials on our 22í LA and I felt the fees were very fair.
The toughest one was the 1800.00 fee for the GE Adventium Convection oven.
But thatís what we wanted, so weíre paying it.
Being able to do specials, is what took us away from American Coach.
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