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Old 05-29-2017, 06:00 PM   #1
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Dutch Star vs Ventana 4369

We are weighing the pros and cons of a 2018 Dutch Star vs a Vantana - models 4369 - to determine which is a better buy. I know a lot is personal preference but we are trying to justify the $60,000 difference in price. if you have owned both - we would love to hear your thoughts?
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Old 05-29-2017, 06:50 PM   #2
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Ive never owned a Ventana but currently own a Dutch Star 3736. I can say the quality of both are really tops in their category but they change the features so often I'd suggest writing the differences down in a list then mark off the ones that really don't matter to you then mark any that reaches the level of "deal Breaker" at this point you will know if its worth the +$60k. When I did this the options/features offered on the Dutch Star was important to me so to keep it in my budget I bought used. It was only the previous year model with 10k miles - this was the right choice for us. Great motorhome.

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Old 05-30-2017, 07:21 AM   #3
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I labored over that exact choice and I'm sure either coach would have been the right choice. The difference sure wasn't $60 grand. There is also no difference in the drivers seat between the two with respect to the different power ratings of the ISL.
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Any chance you could see both models side by side somewhere before ordering? We had the luxury of seeing a couple of Dutch Stars and Ventanas, 40 footers and 43 footers, at the same place. It confirmed our choice for us, and we ordered a Ventana 4369.
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Old 05-30-2017, 09:46 AM   #5
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Dutch Star has all tile floor, Ventana has carpeted slides

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We went through much the same thing when ordering our second DSDP (an '02 DSDP 4090) or going with an MADP. Ended up with the DSDP as we just couldn't see that much difference although I would have liked the heat pumps/hydronic heating in the MADP over the heat pumps/furnace in the DSDP.
Personally I'd go with the DSDP though.
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Well, we looked at both and could not justify the $80k more for a similarly equipped Dutch Star. Granted, there are differences in Horsepower, straight axle v IFS, but with Comfort Drive not real sure if that would make a difference. Side radiator v rear radiator, but I do not do my own maintenance. The full wall slide with carpet v flat floor with tile was not a big deal to us. I think our Ventana is a baby DS the way its equipped for a lot less money. Means I can throw the difference in the fuel tank and travel! Either choice is a great choice. We absolutely love our new coach.
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Funny how this all seems to go. We would have loved a London Aire. The interior, engine, chassis, etc. But we couldn't justify the $80,000 increase. I guess it's all relative. Do what feels comfortable for you! I think there's really not a BAD choice here.

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Some folks can't eat a meal without gold plated utensils. Others think plastic is great. Both are right.

If you live for luxury, and can afford it, buy the top of the line. If not buy what makes you happy. Buying something you don't want just to save money is a fool's game. As a wise person once said, the most expensive tool you will every buy is a cheap one.

If you can't afford what you want, save up - or buy used if that is good for you.

We bought a VTDP. Looked at an LE and loved the model. The few added luxury items sold us on the upgraded model. Looked at the more upscaled coaches and like the upgrades, but they did not intice us to upgrade.

We did what was suggested earier, we compared features side by side marking the must haves and rated the others from 1-10. Helped us.

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We like our Ventana 4369. If we had been willing to wait for a special order, we probably would have ordered a Dutch Star ... but at the time, the dealer had ours in stock, at the end of the model year and was willing to deal. There are a couple of DS features I wish we had, like IFS and multiplex lighting. Our Ventana has taken us many comfortable miles!

We are about ready to trade up and are planning on an Essex or King Aire ... they just have too many shiny things ...
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Dutch Star has an ISL with a real compression brake.
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Originally Posted by FOLEYMECH View Post
Dutch Star has an ISL with a real compression brake.
So does my Ventana....
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The two have he same ISL9 and maybe for 2018 L9 motor, just chipped differently. Same Allison as well. Same three stage engine brake. The difference is side versus rear radiator.
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Dutch Star vs Ventana 4369

We have been looking at the same, 4369 DS vs V. I think if when ordering you don't try to make the Ventana a Dutch Star it makes sense. But when adding power water and electric reals, slide locks, fiberglass roof, lighted closets, window awnings,chrome mirrors, to name a few the gap gets closer to $50 k. Good luck, let us know what you pick and enjoy


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