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04-05-2019, 06:51 PM
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#43
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Location: Vancouver, WA
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So, no control over the tag raise at all? That's going to create problems for me turning into my storage spot and up the curb cut beside the house.
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04-05-2019, 06:52 PM
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#44
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Join Date: Mar 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_D
So, no control over the tag raise at all? That's going to create problems for me turning into my storage spot and up the curb cut beside the house.
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There is a tag toggle on the active air screen. It is just controlled there instead of the old switch on the panel. No loss of controls
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04-05-2019, 06:57 PM
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#45
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Registered User
Newmar Owners Club Appalachian Campers Freightliner Owners Club
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Location: Midlothian, VA
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It’s the same. Just controlled by HWH. Mine is programmed to do the same as if it was in auto. You have full control of it from the touch panel too.
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04-05-2019, 06:59 PM
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#46
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: AZ Winters, ID Summers
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Day 5 of Installation and we are finished!
We settled in this afternoon at Amana RV Park at 4:15 PM, 55 miles West of HWH. It is a Passport America Park for $17 a night (2 night max at that rate). It is wonderful to be in the open air again! There are many activities to do in the area and still close enough to HWH for any unforeseen issues.
Details of the day: Josh got to working on our rig well before 7 am. Heard all the noises. About 9 am we we asked to button her down, close the slides as final tests were about to be done. Mitch, the very knowledgeable and personable " programer" ran her through paces. All the while he was telling hubby the colors of screens and what that meant. When all was adjusted (and there were a few to be made) Mitch backed us out of the building and off those ramps. I sat in our booth dinette area. Now I know why I did not participate in this part when we drove in! Mitch gave Terry lessons on screens and directions on the control pad.
At this time it was noon and our "Valet service Van" was there to take us to lunch in Wilton. Paul (HWH Owner) is a very personable man and genuinely wanted to please us in every way including this lunch. On the way to lunch at a wonderful small cafe in Wilton, Paul explained how he acquired lands and financing some 50 years ago. He made some very good decisions that he said were a result of God as he knew nothing of the future. HWH has a cold steel plant in Wilton and his son Dennis oversees this. The banker in Wilton( long ago) was willing to finance his original business dealings and Paul seems to know everyone in town. This is a man we will look up when we travel to Minot in North Dakota this summer.
Our test drive would wait until we were fed! Great lunch with locals of all the industries in Wilton.
Back at HWH we drove to Pilot to the Weigh Station. Weights were compared to those we had prior to install. We are within the parameters (but when they noted a 200 pound increase in front over first weigh when I was not in rig, I felt a bit incensed. Upon further analysis it was determined, I did not make that difference. I do not weigh 200 pounds for the record!
So now the TEST Drive begins. Hubby drove. He is a conservative driver with whom I have full confidence, (even if I close my eyes sometimes.) I sat in dinette booth area a place I have never sat while in transit. Hey I usually get the passenger seat! I actually could tell a big difference in the ride before we got out of HWH parking lot which is gravel and somewhat potholed based on rain and puddles. Turning out of parking lot onto highway I noted we did not LEAN at all. Traveling into and out of Pilot I noted a much smoother transit into and out of parking lot driveways (no lean) Now we are on the road and Terry was instructed to make an aggressive lane change. He did. I hollered. This aggressive move was not something I enjoyed from my vantage point. As a driver he was pleased with the responsive reaction. Me in the booth still thinking " tilt a whirl." I've recovered from hubby's erratic driving and while in front seat on way to next destination I noted these improvements. Those expansion joints on Interstate are significantly diminished from before Active Air. We can take Off ramps at a much greater speed and enjoy a level ride. Terry is very glad to have his air leveling back. (former Country Coach had this feature) I hope manufactures will recognize the value of this Active Air Feature and include it OEM. It would have saved us a bunch of money. But you can't take it with you!
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04-06-2019, 06:30 AM
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#47
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Ft. Myers, Fl.
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I'm really starting to get excited about our trip. We will be traveling about 8k miles after the install, so I'll be pretty familiar with the system by the time we get home. I understand your comment about being out in the open air. When we were up at Newmar for a week, it felt like getting out of jail the day we could leave. Thanks again for the report and I'm glad you are happy with the system!
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2016 Newmar DSDP 3736 Freightliner, HWH Active Air, Proteng fire suppression.
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04-07-2019, 08:37 AM
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#48
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Registered User
Newmar Owners Club Appalachian Campers Freightliner Owners Club
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Location: Midlothian, VA
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Some have asked via PM about Active Air in the Ventana with Equalizer systems. I'll attach a picture of how we arranged the panels. The engine brake 3 switch setup was moved to left of the steering wheel, actually an ideal location for it as some have complained about having to look down and left at the switches while driving.
HWH takes full control of the air bags so Equalizer is out of the loop so you have to manually dump from HWH and then you can use the jacks. This now allows you to actually air up with jacks down which you could not do previously as some like to come off jacks on the air bags and not have the drop which may be better for the slides. Off topic.
As mentioned above the TAG axle switch does nothing with HWH active air so you can put black tape over that if you want. The TAG is controlled by the HWH panel which can work the same as in auto or manually controlled, again, it's just controlled by HWH now. In my case it will auto dump when in reverse, it just has to be programmed that way and HWH did that for me but not hard to setup in the options page if needed.
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04-07-2019, 09:11 AM
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#49
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NealC
Some have asked via PM about Active Air in the Ventana with Equalizer systems. I'll attach a picture of how we arranged the panels. The engine brake 3 switch setup was moved to left of the steering wheel, actually an ideal location for it as some have complained about having to look down and left at the switches while driving.
HWH takes full control of the air bags so Equalizer is out of the loop so you have to manually dump from HWH and then you can use the jacks. This now allows you to actually air up with jacks down which you could not do previously as some like to come off jacks on the air bags and not have the drop which may be better for the slides. Off topic.
As mentioned above the TAG axle switch does nothing with HWH active air so you can put black tape over that if you want. The TAG is controlled by the HWH panel which can work the same as in auto or manually controlled, again, it's just controlled by HWH now. In my case it will auto dump when in reverse, it just has to be programmed that way and HWH did that for me but not hard to setup in the options page if needed.
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We had HWH AA install last October. October weather was typical fall weather, a bit cool and breezy but just fine. Paul and his team were wonderful hosts and know what they are doing. What impressed me most was the mathematical approach to the installation. The numbers all had to line up ahead of them proceeding.
Now staying in your coach while the work is taking place was not going to be fun. My wife and I drove to Chicago and area for the week.
Enjoy your new ride!!!
2-Nickels
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04-07-2019, 09:30 AM
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Location: Vancouver, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2-Nickels
We had HWH AA install last October. October weather was typical fall weather, a bit cool and breezy but just fine. Paul and his team were wonderful hosts and know what they are doing. What impressed me most was the mathematical approach to the installation. The numbers all had to line up ahead of them proceeding.
Now staying in your coach while the work is taking place was not going to be fun. My wife and I drove to Chicago and area for the week.
Enjoy your new ride!!!
2-Nickels
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So true. They wanted my scale weights which showed I was overweight on the drive axle IF they relied on the Federal sticker which shows 20,000#'s but, going by the model # is actually a 25,000# axle. They then requested tire info. Tires will go to over 33,000#'. That was last week and I haven't heard from them since.
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2009 45' Magna 630 w/Cummins ISX 650 HP/1950 Lbs Ft, HWH Active Air
Charter Good Sam Lifetime Member, FMCA,
RV'ing since 1957, NRA Benefactor Life, towing '21 Jeep JLU Rubicon Ecodiesel
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04-07-2019, 11:51 AM
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#51
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Member
Foretravel Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Spring Branch, TX
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NealC
Some have asked via PM about Active Air in the Ventana with Equalizer systems. I'll attach a picture of how we arranged the panels. The engine brake 3 switch setup was moved to left of the steering wheel, actually an ideal location for it as some have complained about having to look down and left at the switches while driving.
HWH takes full control of the air bags so Equalizer is out of the loop so you have to manually dump from HWH and then you can use the jacks. This now allows you to actually air up with jacks down which you could not do previously as some like to come off jacks on the air bags and not have the drop which may be better for the slides. Off topic.
As mentioned above the TAG axle switch does nothing with HWH active air so you can put black tape over that if you want. The TAG is controlled by the HWH panel which can work the same as in auto or manually controlled, again, it's just controlled by HWH now. In my case it will auto dump when in reverse, it just has to be programmed that way and HWH did that for me but not hard to setup in the options page if needed.
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Thanks Neal!
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04-07-2019, 12:33 PM
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#52
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 6,425
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Once you have active air, replacing the tag switch is an option. I wanted a way to kill the power to the Girard Awnings, so this was a perfect place for the switch.
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04-07-2019, 12:41 PM
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Registered User
Newmar Owners Club Appalachian Campers Freightliner Owners Club
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Good idea. I need a kill switch for the dash radio. Where did you get the switch made?
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04-07-2019, 12:59 PM
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#54
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Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Location: Texas
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Here is the source for the girard switch I made:
https://rockerswitchpros.com/product...pa_color=black
For my dash radio, 360 camera switches I went here: https://www.otrattw.net
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04-07-2019, 03:01 PM
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#55
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Registered User
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Originally Posted by redbaron73
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Thanks. Waiting to see all of your switches replaced with graphical versions
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04-09-2019, 07:45 AM
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#56
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: UP Michigan
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Having a hard time getting to the right source @HWH to get information...Have sent request to sales via mail also and no response.
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