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09-08-2020, 10:42 PM
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Entry Door Vinyl
After the original door vinyl on our 2018 DS shrank around the edges to the point of coming loose at the edges, we hired TransWest in Grand Junction, CO to replace it with Newmar supplied vinyl. Now that we’re 1500 miles away from Junction, the new vinyl has a huge bubble in the center. Everytime I smooth it out, it returns in a few minutes. Anyone know how to fix this problem?
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09-09-2020, 01:03 AM
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Pic would be helpful.
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RodB
2019 DS 4018 (Spartan), Nighthawk
2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
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09-09-2020, 05:06 AM
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Newmar Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Calpop45
After the original door vinyl on our 2018 DS shrank around the edges to the point of coming loose at the edges, we hired TransWest in Grand Junction, CO to replace it with Newmar supplied vinyl. Now that we’re 1500 miles away from Junction, the new vinyl has a huge bubble in the center. Everytime I smooth it out, it returns in a few minutes. Anyone know how to fix this problem?
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I am at Newmar in Nappannee right now for exactly the same reason.
I believe that they use contact cement to glue the vinyl to the door. In your case, its possible that they missed applying cement in the area where you see the bubble forming or didn't use enough.
Find out what material the door is made of and then find a liquid adhesive that works for the two surfaces. (the backing of the vinyl and the door material) Then find a syringe and a thin metal needle, pierce the bubble and inject the adhesive into the bubble. Smooth out the bubble and maintain pressure until the adhesive cures.
Vinyl is a forgiving material and should "heal" the hole made by the syringe to the point you won't see it.
Clean any leftover adhesive on the outside of the vinyl right away.
Just my two cents. I hope it helps.
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09-09-2020, 08:32 AM
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Senior Member
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Maybe just making a tiny hole in the bubble to let the air out would work. just apply pressure to its there might be adhesive behind it.
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2019 Dutch Star 4363 Freightliner
2020 Lincoln Nautilus
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09-09-2020, 08:45 AM
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I would to to your local big box home improvement store and get a J roller for formica, I think I paid about $10 for mine. I had the same issue with some formica I put on a counter top. I apparently missed rolling part of the formica adequately and it formed a bubble. I used the roller on it and it went away permanently. The roller comes in handy for other stuff too. Good luck.
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09-09-2020, 02:54 PM
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Senior Member
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Pierce one edge of the bubble with a pin. Slowly press the air out starting from the opposite edge working towards the pin hole. If there is no adhesive on the vinyl you may have to slice one edge with a razor blade to be able to get some adhesive in there.
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09-12-2020, 03:03 AM
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I am having the same issue with my 2018 DSDP. Newmar would cover it out of warranty and the door manufacturer (PTL) would only give you the vinyl to fix it your self. I guess that is better than nothing.
Has anyone replaced the vinyl themselves? Good idea to add some more contact cement to the door and possibly the vinyl.
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09-12-2020, 05:26 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlaRider
I am having the same issue with my 2018 DSDP. Newmar would cover it out of warranty and the door manufacturer (PTL) would only give you the vinyl to fix it your self. I guess that is better than nothing.
Has anyone replaced the vinyl themselves? Good idea to add some more contact cement to the door and possibly the vinyl.
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I repaired ours last month as it was loose all over and had pulled out of the bottom trim. I removed the trim on both sides and bottom and using contact cement re-attached it. I only used the glue along the edges. Starting with the outer edge, then, pulling the material taunt, the opposite side, and finally the bottom edge. So far it is holding well and looks great. I did remove the retainer for the screen door as well as the trim around the inside handle and glued those areas as well
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09-12-2020, 10:27 PM
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Ken C, could you tell me how to remove the door trim? I have n idea how it’s attached!
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09-12-2020, 10:58 PM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
Newmar Owners Club
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It's funny that this thread just popped up on what is really an unusual issue. As I was prepping the coach for a trip last week, I noticed the vinyl on the bottom left corner of the door had pulled out of the corner by about an 1/8" x 2". The only reason I noticed it, you could see the tan wood behind it. I was unable to pull enough slack to get it back in place, so I glued it down and painted the small sliver of wood that was showing, black.
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09-13-2020, 04:29 AM
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Ours did the same thing. Dealer "repaired" it and it pulled loose again. Latest dealer repair is holding.
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09-13-2020, 07:12 AM
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Our 2019 DS4018 did exactly the same thing at the end of the first year. Newmar replaced it under warranty.
I would contact Newmar and let them know Trans West screwed it up. Trans West can either repair properly or take it somewhere else.
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09-13-2020, 07:20 AM
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We have friends with a Ventana. He had the same issue. He removed the vinyl and the glue. Use a stain on the luan plywood that was under the vinyl and a satin polyurathane.. He used the screen door rubber piece, that holds the screen in the frame, around the edge of the luan to give a finished look. problem solve. It looks really good. Sorry I don't have a picture.
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09-13-2020, 07:42 AM
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Our door vinyl had the same problem.
Our dealer (Independence RV) insisted that the door panel be replaced and did it under warranty. So far no problems.
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