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Old 09-23-2022, 08:15 AM   #1
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Flat Towing F150

I did a search on IRV2 and other forums online but haven't found a similar discussion. We have a 2022 Ford F150 that I set up to flat tow. No issues for the first 1000 miles, but we just had a situation pop up that I wanted to see if anyone has experienced.

I was making a right turn at about 15 mph which required crossing a raised railroad track, so the coach was braking, turning and leaning to the left. When I straightened out of the turn and started to accelerate, the F150 starting oscillating left and right similar to how I've heard the "death wobble" described. I stopped and went out to inspect and there were no issues with the coach, tow bar or F150. I started out again and didn't have any issues the rest of the trip.

Has anyone else experienced this or does anyone have any ideas? I know that previous Super Duties had potential steering linkage issues that caused a wobble when towing a trailer, but didn't find anything about F150s being flat towed.

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I have a 2015 F150 which I have towed since new for about 45000 miles and have not encountered this issue. Maybe the electric steering was still active if accessory left on? Obviously I dont have a clue to help!
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Old 09-23-2022, 10:16 AM   #3
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I tow a 2018 F150 and never had any issues. The only thing I can think of is you maybe thought both of the tow bar arms were locked and one was not and when you made the left turn it could cause the unlocked arm to retract and extend and when you got out and inspected it, it may have been that turn that finally created the force to lock the arm that may have not been locked.
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Thanks, Swerwin, the steering does remain unlocked in Acc 1, but it doesn't seem like the electric assist steering is active. I used to be able to see the front wheels steer in the direction of the turn when I was towing a CRV, but for some reason, I can't tell if the truck's wheels steer in the turn. It may be more subtle to see, but I was wondering if the heaviness of the truck compared to the CRV limits the wheel deflection in a turn? I appreciate your response!
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Thanks, UMXHAULER, I check the latch positions each time, but that's possible since the latches could look like they are engaged without actually being fully extended. I will be on the lookout for that in the future. I appreciate your response.

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There are a few YouTubes on the subject that may help & I just did a Google and found this and other articles:

https://atvhelper.com/can-a-ford-f15...0or%20trailer.
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I think you may have experienced the "perfect storm" with the turn and RR tracks. The front end just didn't have the chance to return to center. I also tow an F-150 with no issue.

Just like the turning tag on the coaches, if you don't give it a chance to straighten out before reversing direction, it can get cocked to one side.
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We had the same issue with our Ford Edge after they updated the electronic steering. We had everything checked and the ONLY solution was to disconnect the battery while towing. On our newer Ford Edge we also have to disconnect the electronic parking brake. But it's a lot easier than worrying about the dreaded wobble!
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Thanks, twogypsies, I appreciate it.

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Thanks, Don, I appreciate it. I will continue to monitor it and see how it goes.

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Thanks, Radioman, I was hoping to leave the battery connected for a few reasons, but will do some more research on that. I found some info online where a few F-150 owners sustained transmission damage flat towing and attributed it to not having a charge line from the coach to the truck’s battery. After towing, the truck batt was dead and they were thinking the loss of batt power may have done something to allow the truck to partially/completely come out of Neutral Tow Mode. Nothing official on it…I’m guessing you’ve had no issue with that?
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The Ford Manual is pretty specific about what you do to put it into Neutral Tow. It may have changed, but my 2019 doesn't require anything be disconnected or turned off.

The one thing you do need to do is make sure you set the alarm to Perimeter as you exit the truck, or your alarm will go off.
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On our Ford Edge we had a charge line to avoid battery draws. But our problem was the electronic steering, and only after they updated the steering in 2020 on a steering column recall. We never had any issues with wobble before the update.

When it's on accessory the electronic steering doesn't always track back to straight after a turn AND slight change in elevation. This caused it to "search" or wobble. Our manual is pretty clear that the battery has to be disconnected. A Ford engineer told us this was only to reduce the battery draw. And since we had a charge line we didn't really care - until we got the wobble. Once we disconnected the battery we were fine. I will defer to Dutchstar Don on this since he has a Ford truck and not an Edge. They may be different.

As for the transmission question, we did need a new transmission 60 days into our new 2022 Edge. But that had nothing to do with towing. It was a manufacturing defect. So far, so good on 2,000 tow miles on the new transmission! We do have to electronically disconnect the transmission and parking break prior to towing. And we have a quick disconnect on the battery as well. I NEVER went to repeat the wobble! We're good so far.
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Thanks, Don, the 2022 F150 doesn't require anything disconnected either and I've been following the manual procedure exactly as written.
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