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01-19-2022, 10:12 AM
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Flooring question on Canyon Star
My brother is looking at a Canyon Star and one of the things that "jumped" out to him was the gap in the flooring. He is wondering if this is normal and also wondering how hard it would be to replace the flooring or put a new flooring over it. He would like something lighter. I don't know the answer so I thought I would jump over to you fine folks and ask.
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01-19-2022, 12:12 PM
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My 2015 had no gaps like that in the vinyl planks; it was a solid floor side to side and front to back.
I cannot speak to the effort to replace, my first question would be if any interior walls were built on top of the flooring that has to be replaced. That could be a major effort at those points. I know matching the height is probably critical for the slide operation.
- Richard
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01-20-2022, 06:19 AM
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My 2020 Canyon Star has no cracks or gaps in the flooring.
I would look under, around, and behind walls & floors, for water intrusion!
That would be my speculation. Could have been simple like a water heater leak, refrigerator, etc; or major like a water line rupture! But look for visible signs of water.
Oh, and love my Canyon Star!!
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01-20-2022, 11:49 AM
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Probably cheap vinyl planks- guaranteed to shrink
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01-23-2022, 06:43 AM
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I think this can also be caused by storage bay temps being significantly different than interior temps for long periods of time. My 2019 CS does not exhibit this floor problem.
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01-23-2022, 06:52 AM
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Wouldn't surprise me if there were "suction cups" to apply to the floor and then rubber mallet to slide the tongues back into their grooves one board at a time down the length of each row.
Doesn't look like water issue. Temp issue if they are vinyl. If they are real wood, then possibly humidity.
Definitely don't install new boards on top of old. Will cause all kinds of issues height wise in multiple places, especially the slide rollers.
I use Urethane glue under engineered wood to prevent boards moving around.
BTW, Ernie who posted above is the Grand Master of RV flooring.
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01-23-2022, 06:57 AM
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This happened in our 18 CS and a friends 17 CS. Newmarket replaced the foot at no charge. Work was done at the factory and took almost 2 weeks.
Replacement requires removal of most of the furniture.
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01-23-2022, 07:08 AM
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Those planks are probably not original from the factory someone must have changed out
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01-23-2022, 10:00 AM
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BTW, Ernie who posted above is the Grand Master of RV flooring.[/QUOTE]
Thanks. At 74 still getting it done
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01-23-2022, 04:57 PM
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Thanks for all of the replies everyone. He passed on this coach and found a great coach in Florida. Still not sure what happened to the floor in the original picture but at least he won't be dealing with it.
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01-23-2022, 11:31 PM
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Sure enough, suction cup at 10 min.
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01-24-2022, 05:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brandss
Thanks for all of the replies everyone. He passed on this coach and found a great coach in Florida. Still not sure what happened to the floor in the original picture but at least he won't be dealing with it.
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I have seen this on a 5th wheel a friend replaced (added) plank flooring.
It was in FL 12 mos / year and left unattended in summer. Seems the extreme heat expand and when it shrinks again when cooler the gaps appear. It happened after the first summer storage and return in the fall.
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01-24-2022, 06:42 AM
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If they put in engineered wood with urethane adhesive-end of worries. I know these things.
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01-24-2022, 09:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ernie Ekberg
If they put in engineered wood with urethane adhesive-end of worries. I know these things.
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True, but then the RV would be $X more expensive...
As you know it's more than double the labor and cost of materials for that upgrade. But worth it...
Certainly far easier for the OEM to do that before the cabinets and slides are all installed.
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