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Old 03-11-2019, 09:20 PM   #1
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Fresh water tank warning 0%

At campground on city water/auto fill

Went outside and noticed large puddle around our coach

Turned off city water spigot

Fresh water low point valve is closed

Did not identify any obvious lsigns of leaks under coach

No signs of water in coach.

Any thoughts about how to zero in on problem?

Thanks...
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Old 03-11-2019, 09:50 PM   #2
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Are you using the water preheat knob in the shower with a full water tank?
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Are you using the water preheat knob in the shower with a full water tank?
Went camping with a friend a few weeks ago, and we were discussing this problem. The next morning he had a puddle around his coach...he had already forgot!
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Are you using the water preheat knob in the shower with a full water tank?
Yes...how would that effect it?
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When you use the water preheat knob in the shower, it returns the water that is cold to the water tank. So if you're connected to shore water, turn the lever to preheat, the shore water has to go somewhere and that somewhere is the water tank. Now you're adding water to a full tank.
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When you use the water preheat knob in the shower, it returns the water that is cold to the water tank. So if you're connected to shore water, turn the lever to preheat, the shore water has to go somewhere and that somewhere is the water tank. Now you're adding water to a full tank.
Yes, thanks Don. The thing that put me in panic mode was the Fresh Water Tank 0% warning on the Silverleaf screen. After seeing that and going outside to find water all over the ground, I assumed some broken connection or tank. I’m guessing that the warning was a temporary issue caused be the overflowing tank...the warning disappeared shortly thereafter.

A couple things learned from the experience...
- when on city water, the water miser serves no useful purpose other than maybe to serve as a drier method of waiting for the hot water to get to the shower head. It does not “save” hot water.
- if using the water miser on city water, turn off “auto fill”.
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Yes, thanks Don. The thing that put me in panic mode was the Fresh Water Tank 0% warning on the Silverleaf screen. After seeing that and going outside to find water all over the ground, I assumed some broken connection or tank. I’m guessing that the warning was a temporary issue caused be the overflowing tank...the warning disappeared shortly thereafter.

A couple things learned from the experience...
- when on city water, the water miser serves no useful purpose other than maybe to serve as a drier method of waiting for the hot water to get to the shower head. It does not “save” hot water.
- if using the water miser on city water, turn off “auto fill”.
Your last point is not the full picture.

When on city water, the use of the water saver is filling your fresh tank. Water comes in from city, goes into tank.

The only time it makes sense to use autofill is when connected to city water. This waits for the fresh tank to drop below 30% and then fills the tank from the city supply.

It is normal with this setup to run both the pump and city pressure. If city pressure drops below the pumps preset limit, the pump takes over. Once you run low on water in the tank, autofill will replenish.

For me this is a game changer. I have gained back several hours of my week just waiting on the tank to fill.
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Your last point is not the full picture.

When on city water, the use of the water saver is filling your fresh tank. Water comes in from city, goes into tank.

The only time it makes sense to use autofill is when connected to city water. This waits for the fresh tank to drop below 30% and then fills the tank from the city supply.

It is normal with this setup to run both the pump and city pressure. If city pressure drops below the pumps preset limit, the pump takes over. Once you run low on water in the tank, autofill will replenish.

For me this is a game changer. I have gained back several hours of my week just waiting on the tank to fill.
Thanks Redbaron...

I should have said temporarily turn off Auto fill while using the water miser. Thanks for pointing out that the water pump can be turned on while on city water...it will sense if it is needed.
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Thanks Redbaron...

I should have said temporarily turn off Auto fill while using the water miser. Thanks for pointing out that the water pump can be turned on while on city water...it will sense if it is needed.
I just want to make sure you understand there is no relation between autofill and shower miser, except that they both allow water from city fill the fresh water tank.

Even with autofill off, your showermiser will fill the fresh water tank if you are on city water.


I actually take advantage of that when my tank is at 80%. I can then safely run the showermiser, and fill my fresh tank a bit while getting hot water ready.

The problem is when fresh tank reaches 100%, you are connected to city, and then use showermiser. You will overflow.

Hope that helps.
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What's this shower miser you are talking about? Would I have that on my 2017 DS4369?
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What's this shower miser you are talking about? Would I have that on my 2017 DS4369?
It is a diverter that pumps water thru the plumbing and returns to the fresh tank. Allows the hot water to be ready before you turn on the sprayer. Otherwise people let shower run for a bit until it sprays hot water, thus filling grey and losing fresh.
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How do I know if my coach is so equipped? Is there a lever to activate the miser, switch I am unaware of perhaps or is this something that came out after 2017?
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How do I know if my coach is so equipped? Is there a lever to activate the miser, switch I am unaware of perhaps or is this something that came out after 2017?
Yes, a separate valve near the main valve, along with a plastic blue circle, that will turn somewhat opaque once heated.
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Sounds like a design flaw. When shower miser is recirculating it should disable city water intake.
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