Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > THE OWNER'S CORNER FORUMS > Newmar Owner's Forum
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 08-05-2021, 05:42 PM   #29
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 2,433
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch Star Don View Post
I changed out the Sachs shocks to Koni's on both my 2014 DS and my 2019 DS. On the 2014 DS, the Koni EVO's for the front had not yet been created. I went with the Koni RED's which was a shock that has been around for years. It was no better than the Sachs on the front. About a year later, the Koni EVO was created and switched the fonts to those. They made quite a difference.

As soon as my 2019 DS arrived, I ordered Koni FSD's for the rear and the Koni EVO's for the front and changed them out. On the front, the Koni EVO's get rid of that short chatter that can make your front shade hop up and down and they dulled the thud of pot holes and smoothed out the ride. These truck chassis' will never ride like a limousine.

It's human nature to praise a product when you spend a lot of money on something, even if it doesn't work. I don't feel that way, if it doesn't work, I let others know and move on. On my 2014 DS, I threw away the Koni RED's that I just bought when they didn't improve the ride and went with the EVO"s when they entered the market. Within a month, I changed out the shocks on my 2019 DS. Some may think I'm nuts, but my motor home is my hot rod and I like to make handling improvements. I'm very finicky about the handling, including the addition of Centramatic wheel balancers.

Lastly, go to Koni NA, plug in your chassis and it will give you the shock numbers. Then go online and find the best deal. Stay away from Shock Warehosue. I bought mine from Ultra RV Products.

https://www.koni-na.com/en-US/NorthA...cts/Motorhome/

https://www.ultrarvproducts.com/Koni-Shocks
So it sounds like you changed all the shocks?
__________________
2019 Dutchstar 4369 Spartan. Full wall failure survivor.
Canuck53 is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 08-05-2021, 05:58 PM   #30
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 2,433
Quote:
Originally Posted by kpecks View Post
I paid $125 to have a shop do it. Took less than 1 hr while I sipped on my coffee.

I do agree itís the best $$$ youíll spend
I have a 2019 4369 Spartan. Weíre there any other items that had to be purchased? On the Koni web site there were several choices depending on construction of the front end and ratings.
__________________
2019 Dutchstar 4369 Spartan. Full wall failure survivor.
Canuck53 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2021, 11:38 AM   #31
"Formerly Diplomat Don"
 
Dutch Star Don's Avatar
 
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Moorpark, Ca.
Posts: 20,849
Quote:
Originally Posted by Canuck53 View Post
I have a 2019 4369 Spartan. Weíre there any other items that had to be purchased? On the Koni web site there were several choices depending on construction of the front end and ratings.
Yes, I changed all the shocks on both coaches. The rears take Koni FSD's, which I find make the coach corner better. On the Freightliner, the rear and tag axle shocks are the same shocks.

On the front, they most likely are listing the Koni RED and Koni EVO. You want the Koni EVO's, deigned for IFS.
__________________
Don & Mary
2019 Newmar Dutch Star 4018 (Freightliner)
2019 Ford Raptor
Dutch Star Don is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2021, 10:26 PM   #32
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 2,433
Thumbs up

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch Star Don View Post
Yes, I changed all the shocks on both coaches. The rears take Koni FSD's, which I find make the coach corner better. On the Freightliner, the rear and tag axle shocks are the same shocks.

On the front, they most likely are listing the Koni RED and Koni EVO. You want the Koni EVO's, deigned for IFS.

Thanks
__________________
2019 Dutchstar 4369 Spartan. Full wall failure survivor.
Canuck53 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2021, 02:49 PM   #33
Senior Member
 
Steve 716's Avatar


 
Entegra Owners Club
Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Box Elder, SD
Posts: 584
The Koni difference

I purchased my front Koni shocks online and a truck tire center installed them for a nominal amount of money. It took them about a half hour to install both sides so a self install should be straightforward.

I can speak to the ride difference. My original Bilstein shocks were a rough ride whenever I drove on poor roads, including interstates. It was like my coach was connected directly to the road and I worried about damage to my suspension and tires. I felt almost every pothole, dip, and bump even if they were small. There was no cushion at all. It was jarring and rough, I coiuld feel every imprefection on the road. I hated it.

Koni fixed all of that. My ride is cushier and steering is easier. I do occasionally get a controlled bounce or two from dips in the road but no more being slammed around. You are doig a good thing by swapping out your front shocks.
__________________
2016 Entegra Anthem 42RBQ
2019 Ford Fusion Titanium Hybrid
Steve 716 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2021, 02:56 PM   #34
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Covina, California
Posts: 2
DIY Koni shock

Quote:
Originally Posted by hogdriver View Post
My previous Spartan K2 rode a lot better w the Koni shocks I had installed. Considering putting them on the front of this 21 DutchStar 4369.

I have a considerable amount of tools including impact wrenches but I do not have a vehicle pit, lift, or ramps for a vehicle this size. Has anybody done this in their driveway or garage? Can it be a DIY, or does this require a pit or professional install?
I installed them front & back on my 36í in my driveway. Jacked it up, put jackstands under it & installed. Did it 5yrs ago. Best thing I ever did. Night & day difference.
Hbruce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2021, 03:20 PM   #35
Senior Member
 
Clemson's Avatar


 
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 462
Quote:
Originally Posted by hogdriver View Post
My previous Spartan K2 rode a lot better w the Koni shocks I had installed. Considering putting them on the front of this 21 DutchStar 4369.

I have a considerable amount of tools including impact wrenches but I do not have a vehicle pit, lift, or ramps for a vehicle this size. Has anybody done this in their driveway or garage? Can it be a DIY, or does this require a pit or professional install?
Donít waste your money IMO. I swapped ourís out for Konis. ZERO changes in ride.
__________________
2022 Newmar Dutch Star 4369
2018 Jeep JL Sahara Unlimited
Clemson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2021, 07:19 PM   #36
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1
This is my first reply in 5 years; I have a 40" Diesel Pusher, I am 75 years old 5'5", on my driveway concrete pad, by my self, installed 2ea Kone, and 2 ea Bilstein, a Safe-T-Plus, RoadMaster front and rear stabilizer's (the rear was a challenge). I am mechanically inclined, and have all the tools, so It can be done, I enjoy doing these things myself, because I can. Some day in the boondocks it may only be me.
Richard346 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2021, 11:32 PM   #37
Member
 
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 65
My 2019 4369 on Spartan K2 already rides like a Cadillac, so why all this discussion about swapping out with Koni shocks? Is the difference in the ride really that significant?
__________________
Russ
2019 Newmar DS 4369 Spartan
2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk
Sugaree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2021, 12:56 PM   #38
"Formerly Diplomat Don"
 
Dutch Star Don's Avatar
 
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Moorpark, Ca.
Posts: 20,849
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sugaree View Post
My 2019 4369 on Spartan K2 already rides like a Cadillac, so why all this discussion about swapping out with Koni shocks? Is the difference in the ride really that significant?
To some it is. Many people buy coaches, drive them for 80K miles and never change anything. Some are more finicky and can see an improvement by changing things like shocks. There wouldn't be a HUGE aftermarket of products, if there wasn't some improvement in what they offered.

We live in California with the worse roads in the country. The shocks improved my ride tremendously.

I constantly read where people spend thousands of dollars on internet antennas, new cell phones and stereo systems, yet they won't replace a set of cheap shocks for $350.00.
__________________
Don & Mary
2019 Newmar Dutch Star 4018 (Freightliner)
2019 Ford Raptor
Dutch Star Don is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2021, 12:58 PM   #39
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 44
I haven't read all the posts, but it looks as if the heavy 40+ footers ride is greatly enhanced with Koni shocks but Clemson advised the lighter Ventana was not. I have a 2015 37ft Dutchstar which is a mid-weight and I do feel the rough roads pretty bad, would the Koni shocks help on this size RV and should I change just front or front and rear(no tag axle).
I would like to say Thank You to Dutch Star Don, He has always given great advise...without fail, on the posts I have followed.
__________________
JDB20 -2015 Newmar Dutch Star 3736
jdb20 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2021, 06:21 PM   #40
"Formerly Diplomat Don"
 
Dutch Star Don's Avatar
 
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Moorpark, Ca.
Posts: 20,849
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdb20 View Post
I haven't read all the posts, but it looks as if the heavy 40+ footers ride is greatly enhanced with Koni shocks but Clemson advised the lighter Ventana was not. I have a 2015 37ft Dutchstar which is a mid-weight and I do feel the rough roads pretty bad, would the Koni shocks help on this size RV and should I change just front or front and rear(no tag axle).
I would like to say Thank You to Dutch Star Don, He has always given great advise...without fail, on the posts I have followed.
If his Ventana, had a straight front axle, I'm not sure what year they went to IFS, and he installed the Koni RED shocks for a straight axle, he wouldn't see an improvement. It's the Koni EVO's that provide improvement on the IFS coaches.

Change your rears to the Koni FSD's and the front to Koni EVO's you'll notice the Koni's on the rear will improve cornering.
__________________
Don & Mary
2019 Newmar Dutch Star 4018 (Freightliner)
2019 Ford Raptor
Dutch Star Don is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
diy, dutchstar, koni, shocks



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
To DIY or not DIY HamboneTHW Alpine Coach Owner's Forum 73 05-07-2018 08:41 AM
Koni shocks or stay with Bilstein gas shocks bruscillo Tiffin Owner's Forum 5 08-06-2014 02:06 PM
About to install new Koni front shocks offdutyRV Workhorse and Chevrolet Chassis Motorhome Forum 8 10-14-2012 03:51 AM
Koni shocks for UFO front, or both axles? cj5 jeeper Workhorse and Chevrolet Chassis Motorhome Forum 12 06-16-2009 08:31 PM
New Koni shocks on front of W22 ghamblen Workhorse and Chevrolet Chassis Motorhome Forum 6 09-02-2006 06:39 AM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.