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Old 07-30-2019, 10:56 AM   #1
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Front nose won't stay closed

My front nose on my 08 madp will not stay closed tight. Opened the nose to check the oil level on my generator yesterday. Went to close it and after a few minutes noticed it was back open about 2 inches. Thought maybe I didn't close it all the way, reclosed it. I watched it very slowly open back up. This morning it was about 6 inches slid back out. Got a call into HWH but thought I'd ask you guys for help. Am on the road and we are leaving the park we are in for another Thursday. Not enough time to get parts in. Don't think it would hurt anything to go down the road with it the way it is. Thought about using a tie down strap underneath to help keep it completely shut till I can make repairs? Click image for larger version

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What is the MA part of the MADP?

I would use a couple bungee cords to help keep it closed while searching for a solution. A ratcheting tie strap might work too. If you can find a way to operate it from underneath.

I don't think I would drive it that way without having some sort of strap holding it.
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Mountain Aire. Don't think a bungee strap would hold it. A ratchet tie down would be best. Once I get road ready and have gotten up up to air ride height it shouldn't be a problem getting under it to put the strap in place. Being open only 6 inches is not much considering fully opened is about 4 feet.
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I am not familiar with how your front opens - is it electric, like a slide? My slide used to creep out a little until I replaced the motors with ones with a brake on it.
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It's hydraulic.
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Leaking solenoid would be my guess. At the leveling hydraulic pump likely. There generally is a screw to manually open the valve. give that a test to ensure it's closed. Open / close it.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:46 PM   #7
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I'm not familiar with the fancy hydraulic nose mechanism, but a leak somewhere does sound like the cause. Normally hydraulic systems stay put -- unless there's a leak.

Notice any pink or purple puddles under the front of your coach lately?

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The "leak" is likely not external, but internal. So no puddle of fluid.
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Not the same issue but quite similar...Our full wall slide would try to creep back up after extending. I operated the lever on the solenoid valves - once with slide extended and once when retracted. That seemed to solve the problem. I think I had air in the system that needed to be bleed off. If yours is like mine though, the solenoid for the slide out is inside the slide. I would be difficult to operate with the generator slide in.
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My hwh generator slide has 2 valves. One valve extends and one valve retracts.

A ratcheting strap would be best, but open up both valves as you ratchet the slide. It should come in all the way. Should operate like the jacks once the valve is opened.
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I have an 07 Essex that was doing the same thing. It was the Extend valve leaking internally according to HWH. Simple install: Screws out, using channel locks, 2 wires. I called Newmar for part number, pic and procedure to install. They wanted $362. Then contacted HWH in Iowa for the part. Priced less $200 Phone: (563)724-3396 or (800)321-3494
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I called hwh yesterday. Had to leave my number for a call back. Still waiting for it. Pretty sure I've located the 2 valves in the manifold, each one has a wire going to it. Will call them back today to see where I'm at on the call back list.
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After you find if the coils are good or not, if they're good, I've read several times over the years that either air or debris can cause a leak back of fluid in HWH systems. Was happening to me.

My rear bedroom slide has had a problem of slipping open around 4" while driving that developed immediately after Winnebago service department replaced a hydraulic coil/valve for me. They worked on it in May of '18. It finally stopped extending a couple months ago so I think that either the air or debris has worked it's way out of the valve seat.

So I'd say check for air or debris and a bad coil first thing before replacing parts. Might be a simple fix.
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What is the coil and where would it be located? Just called hwh and was told it would be a month and a half before they would return my call! Wish I had a business that busy, think of all the money they are making!
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