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Old 10-16-2018, 12:37 PM   #1
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Front Windshield Fogging and Wet

Newmar Newbies here...we have a new 2018 Dutch Star and when we finally got into to some colder weather we noticed that the windshield really fogged up and then condensed turning to running water at times. I'm guessing that just like driving in a car in the winter when you are not running the AC with the defroster, you are not removing any moisture from the air. Most all of the other windows are double paned so they stay nice and dry.
Has anyone come up with a fix other than laying a towel on the dash and then using a squeegee upon departure? Our exterior MagneShade covers did not seem to help much, but it kept the Ice off of things
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:51 PM   #2
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Often, you naturally want to keep everything closed up tight in cold weather to keep the heat in, but this can cause the issue you're having. Try opening a window or roof vent a little and you'll probably resolve your issue. The Magneshade is probably compounding the issue.
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Old 10-16-2018, 03:24 PM   #3
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Hi - Because your coach is so well insulated and tight any moisture in the coach is not going to easily migrate out. The front glass is cold because of it being single pane and will condense that moisture. The real issue is that you have too much moisture in your coach. Ventilate the living space well when cooking and showering. Prolonged excessive moisture will damage your coach and cause mold issues where you can't see it until the damage is done.
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Old 10-16-2018, 07:37 PM   #4
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You can crack the mid-bath vent slightly if it is not too cold out.

We have a small dehumidifier we take with us if out more than a few weeks. Works great at keeping the correct humidity in the coach.
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Old 10-16-2018, 07:49 PM   #5
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At night we run the roof exhaust vent fan in the rear of our coach and keep a window cracked at the front of the coach otherwise we run into the same condition.

For sure it gets cold but first one up in the morning turns on the furnace and starts the two electric heaters until it warms up.
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Old 10-16-2018, 08:40 PM   #6
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we use a small ceramic electric heater that fits great on the dash area and sort of aim it to flow the warm air across the window.
makes a huge difference,

this is not a newmar coach, but equally applies to ours
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We have the same problem when it's cold out. I do put rolled towels across at the bottom where the windshield meets the dash. I can easily throw them in the dryer when they get wet then put them back once dry. I keep a small desk fan on the dash blowing at the windshield for air flow. I always use the exhaust fans (with a window cracked open) after showering or cooking. We'll run the heat pumps (which remove moisture) until it gets below 38, when they become ineffective. I've also got a compact dehumidifier that sits on the kitchen counter I can bring out if needed.

You have to keep the humidity manageable.

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Lori, what brand and model dehumidifier do you use?
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Ours does the exact same thing when the temps get cold at night. If you really don't want it fogged up in the morning try rolling both windshield shades up just before retiring for the night.
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We have the same problem when it's cold out. I do put rolled towels across at the bottom where the windshield meets the dash. I can easily throw them in the dryer when they get wet then put them back once dry. I keep a small desk fan on the dash blowing at the windshield for air flow. I always use the exhaust fans (with a window cracked open) after showering or cooking. We'll run the heat pumps (which remove moisture) until it gets below 38, when they become ineffective. I've also got a compact dehumidifier that sits on the kitchen counter I can bring out if needed.

You have to keep the humidity manageable.

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I don't think that heat pumps remove moisture from inside the coach. Air conditioners do because the coach air passes over the cold evaporator coils & produce condensation by removing water from the air. When in heat pump mode those internal coils are now hot & do not produce condensation from the coach air.
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I don't think that heat pumps remove moisture from inside the coach. ...
With all due respect, they do remove humidity. ARTICLE

They aren't as efficient as a large heat pump for a house is, but they do remove humidity.

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Easy fix. Open the front windshield shade and turn on one or both overheard window fans facing the glass. In 1/2 hour it's clear.
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I don't put our windshield MCD shade down all the way at night, leave it up off the dash ~inch. With the small, quiet desktop fan I keep on the dash (the coach windshield fans are a bit noisy) facing the windshield, we rarely have condensation issues.

I have more problems with the bathroom mirrors fogging up during showers even with the shaving cream remedy...but even those clear up within 5 min using the exhaust fan.

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