Full Wall Slide Adjustment

[cjorg]

I have a 2013 Ventana LE 3434, the full wall slide is not square in the opening when the slide is in. It fits in the opening tight top, bottom and both sides, the problem is it seems to be cocked or not centered correctly, the top corner at the front of the coach is very close to touching the edge of the opening while the top corner at the back of the coach has to much of a gap from the edge of the opening. Is there an adjustment that can be made to move the top of the slide back, so the gap is equal all the way around the FWS? Again, the slide fits in tightly as it should top, bottom and both ends, the issue is the top front corner is too close to the edge and the gap on the back end is too big. I had a local shop try to fix this problem last year and all they did was make sure the paint lines were good they did not get the front top corner moved towards the back of the coach as needed.
Any help is appreciated.
Chris

[IEales]

What did the shop tell you or claim they did?

Just guessing, but when you run the slide out do you hold the switch for 3 to 5 sec?

Holding the switch sets the zero and the slide should run in evenly.

You should do it both in and out once you've got it square.

[Dutch Star Don]

Your slide has "walked" forward. You can try two things. First, put the slide out and while someone operates the button to bring it back in, stand at the front of the slide and lean against it.

The second way is to find a small hill and point the coach up hill. Open the slide and then retract it.

On mine, which is a different slide mechanism, there is a small 1.5" puck on the bottom of the front and back slide opening. The puck can be adjusted in or out (freely screws) and helps to center the slide. I don't know if your mechanism uses a puck.

[cjorg]

Originally Posted by IEales

What did the shop tell you or claim they did?

Just guessing, but when you run the slide out do you hold the switch for 3 to 5 sec?

Holding the switch sets the zero and the slide should run in evenly.

You should do it both in and out once you've got it square.

All they did was get the paint lines matched up I think. When I deploy there his a delay of several seconds before the slide moves in or out.

[cjorg]

Originally Posted by IEales

What did the shop tell you or claim they did?

Just guessing, but when you run the slide out do you hold the switch for 3 to 5 sec?

Holding the switch sets the zero and the slide should run in evenly.

You should do it both in and out once you've got it square.

Yes it takes a few seconds for the slide to move once the button is depressed.

[cjorg]

Originally Posted by Dutch Star Don

Your slide has "walked" forward. You can try two things. First, put the slide out and while someone operates the button to bring it back in, stand at the front of the slide and lean against it.

The second way is to find a small hill and point the coach up hill. Open the slide and then retract it.

On mine, which is a different slide mechanism, there is a small 1.5" puck on the bottom of the front and back slide opening. The puck can be adjusted in or out (freely screws) and helps to center the slide. I don't know if your mechanism uses a puck.

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I will try elevating the front of the coach and then opening and closing the slide. Was thinking about using the front jacks to raise the front of the coach then operating the slide as you suggested. What are your thoughts on that?

[richpatty]

Originally Posted by cjorg

Yes it takes a few seconds for the slide to move once the button is depressed.

This is normal in the electric FWS…

[lrwinddancer]

Howdy Don, it has been a while since I have needed your help. So, is this full wall slide a hydraulic or electric slide? I ask because I have an issue with my bedroom slide having the same issue. It is electric, my full wall is hydraulic. Will this technic work on a smaller electric slide? Thanks

[Dutch Star Don]

Originally Posted by cjorg

I will try elevating the front of the coach and then opening and closing the slide. Was thinking about using the front jacks to raise the front of the coach then operating the slide as you suggested. What are your thoughts on that?

I wouldn't do it with the jacks. It tweaks the chassis too much. It's more natural on a grade, the coach is aired up evenly and the opening will be closer to square.

[Dutch Star Don]

Originally Posted by lrwinddancer

Howdy Don, it has been a while since I have needed your help. So, is this full wall slide a hydraulic or electric slide? I ask because I have an issue with my bedroom slide having the same issue. It is electric, my full wall is hydraulic. Will this technic work on a smaller electric slide? Thanks

I've never had to do the bedroom slide. It will be harder to do. I know one of the posters with a 2018 DS, used a 2x4 to force it over a smidge. You might still try wedging yourself against the inside wall and pushing as it goes in and out.

You may also want to pull up the wood floor under the bed and check the mechanism. If you were to kneel mid bed on either side and look straight down at the floor on the inside of the bed frame, you'll see four large bolts in a square pattern about 4" apart. These help center the frame and was an area that Newmar used carriage bolts and no washers on the other end. The carriage bolt fit was sloppy.

I removed the four bolts and added washers to keep everything tight. Newmar installed the bolts by dropping them in from the top and putting the nuts on the bottom. If you pull them, it's easier to reassemble by installing the bolts from the bottom up and put the nuts and washers on the top.

[RobertMarce]

My problem is at the top of the wall slide the top front is against the rubber and the back top has a gap in it
IF I try the first part of the message do I lean on the front wall or the rear wall.

[Birddog Pilot]

cjorg, I'm in complete agreement with Don on the "slide shift," it definitely can happen. I had the reverse on our Alpine Coach where the HWH slide shifted rearward and came dangerously close to damaging the aluminum framing structure of the slide. Even though that slide was only about 2/3rds the length of our current Dutch Star's FWS it definitely moved. What I finally came up with was that when we returned from trips, before putting the Alpine back in storage, we would do the usual cleaning and empty it out at home where the driveway has a pronounced uphill slope. Like a dummy I would open the three slides to have more room to move around. It took a while to learn that the larger of the three slides was the only one shifting rearward. When I realized what had happened, I figured, "Okay if I backed into the driveway and operated the slide a few times, maybe it would find its way home." And surprise, surprise the slide gradually worked its way back where it was supposed to be. You didn't happen to operate the slide on a downslope where it could work itself forward did you? Both the Alpine and the Newmar FWS's have the same, or very similar "roller-chain" mechanism, with both raising and lowering to make a flat floor. I'm also not sure about the Alpine having the 1.5" adjustment/centering pucks that Don mentioned - now that sounds like a great idea. Hopefully if AZPete, HWH's roving national expert, should read this he might be able to shed some light on how a Newmar slide could shift and the best way to get it back where it belongs.

After my experience with the Alpine and reading so many posts here on iRV2 about Newmars and how to level; I am a firm believer in making sure the DS is level before moving any of the slides.

[Birddog Pilot]

Ooops, I should have read all of the posts more carefully, it sounds like the 2013 Ventana's FWS is electric and not HWH hydraulic. Sorry about all that stuff about the HWH system, but at least someday those of you with the HWH system might still benefit from my learning experiences.

[alank]

Originally Posted by RobertMarce

My problem is at the top of the wall slide the top front is against the rubber and the back top has a gap in it
IF I try the first part of the message do I lean on the front wall or the rear wall.

I can picture what you are saying, have you compared the top gap to the gap at the bottom of the slide. Is the bottom gap out of proportion the same as the top, other or are they the same.

It could be that the opening in the coach isn't square, or more likely the slide box, when it was built, isn't squared to the opening.