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Old 05-04-2016, 07:58 PM   #1
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Decided it was time to go forward with replacing the rest of the flooring in our MADP. Since 2002 this coach had seen a lot of flooring. At least 3 carpet changes, ceramic tile was replaced with faux vinyl tile and 2 years ago I replaced bedroom carpet with hardwood. http://www.irv2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214732
This is the floor I the bedroom and I intend to put this through out including the slide.
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Took about 3 hours to rip out the bulk of the faux vinyl and the added underlayment. Looks like the installer could not decide exactly how he wanted to fasten the underlayment or what type. At least 2 different types of plywood and some was glued and some was stapled.
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Next up is removing all the edges. Most of it is slid under the cabinets or walls. There is a recess that it fit into. This should make it easier when putting down the new flooring. Once the main area is complete I will be able to move the couch finish under there and remove both front captains chairs to finish up at area. Then finish up the slide it will require some custom trim to match up to the floor.


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Our living room/ kitchen, floor plans are the same .

What are your plans for the slide carpet edge , that's been my biggest fear in doing the wood replacement.
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The wood manufacturers have stair nose trim to match the flooring. I add plywood to the slide to make sure the stair nose trim has a secure platform. I always start at the entry with the stair nose trim and work to the rear of the coach.
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Like Ernie mentioned I will use some sort of bull nose on the edge. Either a custom made part or purchased. Once the main floor is finished and the carpet removed I will have a better idea on how to proceed.
On the entry steps we have what appears to be Corian or some other material as a threshold. I may just butt the new flooring up to this instead of replacing with a bull nose. The way the step cover works the trim piece could not hang over and would need to remain flush with the floor.
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On our 04 Essex replaced carpet with wood flooring and had a real problem with driver side front slide and the rollers under slide. I tried to measure the wood thickness to come close to the compressed carpet/padding but ended having to go with all new smaller rollers which took up as much time as doing the flooring. Did need to use Newmar plastic floor protectors on the end slide rollers so has not to mark the floor. Also needed to change the slide out ramps to raise a 1/4 higher. Turned out great but a lot more work then planned with roller replacement.
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Like Ernie mentioned I will use some sort of bull nose on the edge. Either a custom made part or purchased. Once the main floor is finished and the carpet removed I will have a better idea on how to proceed.
On the entry steps we have what appears to be Corian or some other material as a threshold. I may just butt the new flooring up to this instead of replacing with a bull nose. The way the step cover works the trim piece could not hang over and would need to remain flush with the floor.
Folks that are not familiar with Newmar coaches: The entry has a 1 piece surround of corian which extends under the dash. This has a hinge for the steps right under the edge and to try and put a stair nose trim, you would have to cut the bottom part of stair nose to accommodate this hinge. You have to have the hinge so the stairs articulate and become the step well cover.
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On our 04 Essex replaced carpet with wood flooring and had a real problem with driver side front slide and the rollers under slide. I tried to measure the wood thickness to come close to the compressed carpet/padding but ended having to go with all new smaller rollers which took up as much time as doing the flooring. Did need to use Newmar plastic floor protectors on the end slide rollers so has not to mark the floor. Also needed to change the slide out ramps to raise a 1/4 higher. Turned out great but a lot more work then planned with roller replacement.
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Luckily the vinyl tile and sub floor I am removing is very close to the wood going back in. New wood is just slightly lower. Perfect for some floor protectors.
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Tonight removed all the edge pieces from under the cabinets and walls. Finally figured out a little more on the history and why varying underlayment and fastening methods. Original ceramic tile was only in kitchen area and bathroom. Rest of areas must have been carpet. So original tile was taken out along with carpet. New underlayment put down and the faux vinyl on top of that.
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Front entry step has a 1/2" x 5" Corian which I may just leave and run the new flooring up to. As Ernie mentioned this piece sits over top the hinge for the step cover.
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Looks like there was either a leak at the ice maker or was not properly cleaned up after using. After shutting off and removing ice. I use towels to make sure the melting frost does not leak out.
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When the original tile was put in the subfloor and tile was on top of this vinyl under the cabinets. Newmar used the grey adhesive to attach.
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Finished ripping out all the old stuff tonight and removed a many crown staples.
Hard to notice but where each captains chair was mounted the OSB is smashed down pretty good. I may try and level that out with leveling compound before putting down the new.
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And all removed around drivers seat. There was some evidence of the drivers window leak, but glad to say it is now bone dry even with the heavy down pours we have had this week. The new pan is doing its job.
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The new flooring matching up nicely to the existing material around the stairs. Also compared the old floor to the new and new is about 1/16 lower. So should be about perfect with some adhesive.
What would you do leave the black Corian or take it out and put a wood nosing at the steps?
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Steve you're doing a heck of a job. What you've finished so far in first pictures looks fantastic. Love your choice of flooring, it goes perfect with your cabinets etc. It also looks very rich.

Just my opinion here, myself I would keep the Corian at the top of entry steps. My feeling is it will wear best. The wood edging would look fine but I would fear it not holding up well over time, unless everyone who enters remembers to step over it. Plus, I really think the Corian would not look bad at all with the wood. In other words, it would look like "it's meant to be there" if you know what I mean.

Take care, can't wait for your next update!

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interesting, I had not see the black corian in a Newmar before. I have black corian in my coach in the entry and it scratches easily- factory install it on the steps- I put some black abraisive non skid as folks were slipping
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I went out and took a closer look at the material this morning. It may not be Corian, I believe it is quartz (93% crushed Quartz with resin binder) countertop material. So far it has held up well. Had a few scuffs but nothing beyond that. I think I may just leave it in place as I do think it will be more durable than wood in that area. Tried to scratch with knife in hidden area and takes some force to scratch.

Looking at samples from Quartz and Corian it could be either one.
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leaving that entry piece intact means you won't have to mess with the hinge for your steps.
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Yes, I agree. The more I look at it leaving it there seems best.
Got a good start on putting in the new floor. Put down a chalk line to keep me straight and in the right place at the steps. Since I wanted to continue to lines from the bedroom had to fudge my line about 1/4". Don't think anyone will notice that.
Bathroom almost finished, couple more pieces and will be out in the main area. All the cutting and fitting takes awhile.
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