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10-07-2007, 08:41 AM
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When looking at a coach in the 43 to 45 ft range such as a DSDP or a MADP, I know 2 is usually standard, but the 3rd is a frequently selected option. I suspect 3 are needed since that is what seems popular. But my question really is from the perspective of if I am looking at coaches should having only 2 be a deal breaker.
The obvious first question is probably where do I want to use the coach and I suspect the worst case would be the fact that I would like to be in Las Vegas for the WSOP in July/August every year if I can. I would also like to go to Mexico, but that would be in the winter.
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10-07-2007, 08:41 AM
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When looking at a coach in the 43 to 45 ft range such as a DSDP or a MADP, I know 2 is usually standard, but the 3rd is a frequently selected option. I suspect 3 are needed since that is what seems popular. But my question really is from the perspective of if I am looking at coaches should having only 2 be a deal breaker.
The obvious first question is probably where do I want to use the coach and I suspect the worst case would be the fact that I would like to be in Las Vegas for the WSOP in July/August every year if I can. I would also like to go to Mexico, but that would be in the winter.
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10-07-2007, 11:01 AM
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Las Vegas-3, Mexico-3, Wyoming-2, Florida-3, Gulf Coast-3....it should be a deal breaker.
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10-07-2007, 11:08 AM
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I know opinions are like....oh never mind, but my opinion after over a year with a 45 footer is.....THREE!!
I may the exception rather than the rule,but more is better in my book...I have two in the salon area of the coach and one over top the bedroom area and here in Florida there are times I use ALL THREE.
With the front AC running most of the time in sunlight and with the benefit of a common plenun for all three, I think you're better off.
Sure, you could "get by" with two, but who wants to get by?
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10-07-2007, 11:31 AM
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How do you use all 2 or 3 air conditioners at the same time.
38` ds with 2
Thanks, Rich
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10-07-2007, 12:43 PM
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3 without a doubt. We run 3 with 50 amp shore power or the 8KW genny-no problem.
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10-07-2007, 01:45 PM
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Hey Bruce,
I would agree with all the suggestions and go with 3. Some times in extreme heat three can had a tough time keeping the coach driver's area cool. 2 Definitely a deal breaker.
Thanks, Daryl
2008 MADP 4521
2006 Acura TL Toad
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10-08-2007, 07:44 AM
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I was just in Vegas in August with my DSDP with only two. Absolutely THREE and it would be a deal breaker if I was looking for a new unit.
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10-20-2007, 11:59 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Harm:
I was just in Vegas in August with my DSDP with only two. Absolutely THREE and it would be a deal breaker if I was looking for a new unit. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Can a third AC unit be added. If I found a coach of interest and it has only two is this fixable assuming the price on the coach is good otherwise.
I seem to recall that the 3rd air unit as a factory option was about $1500. To install an additional one would we be talking close to that 1500, or more like 3000, or even 6000. Also would I be exposing myself to future leaks?
Based on the answers to this thread I know I want 3, the question is if it is fixable if a coach does not have 3.
Thanks for all your helpfull answers so far.
-- Bruce
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10-20-2007, 01:32 PM
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I've had some interesting discussions with my friend over the subject of "cutting holes in the roof of a motor home" over the years. He says "Heck NO"! I say there are a large number of holes in the roof of every motorhome, going back many, many years. If properly installed and sealed, I see absolutely no reason for concern, However he is not impressed. It won't lower the value of the rig one penny-- they depreciate fast enough on their own-- I'd vote for the install of # 3, Especially if they "sweeten the pot",
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10-20-2007, 03:51 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Can a third AC unit be added. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hi Bruce! What brand, model, and floor plan?? Paul
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10-20-2007, 07:25 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jetsmania:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Can a third AC unit be added. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hi Bruce! What brand, model, and floor plan?? Paul </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
No specific unit yet, but based on the conversation above I see 3 as required. Through online adds only (so far) I have identified a couple of MADP and Travel Supreme units that the only shortcoming (on paper at least) is 2 AC units. So I am just wondering if it is correctable.
Hope you had a good trip up to Indiana, Since I know you are visiting the factory maybe you could ask the question there and see what they think.
I have even seen some DSDP units in dealer inventory with only 2 AC's. The real question to ask the factory is if it was a deal breaker on a new in stock unit and the dealer offered to install the AC would they stand behind the warrenty and reccomend it or not.
Besides, if I just wait for you to trade up I will have a well equipped debugged unit to consider.
Bruce
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10-21-2007, 03:08 AM
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I believe all 40' DSDP's have 2 ACs, and do not have roof framing for a third unit, whereas 43' models have a third AC as an option.
If the roof is not framed for a third unit it could be quite expensive to add one after the fact.
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10-21-2007, 05:53 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">if I just wait for you to trade up I will have a well equipped debugged unit to consider </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hi Bruce! There is a nice black colored King Aire on the other side of the fence. Rear Bath floor plan. Anyway Dirk has answered your question. If you find a specific unit that meets your needs, you can call the factory with the Serial Number and they should be able to tell you if that unit can be modified. Keep in mind what Dirk said. I don't know anything about Travel Supreme. Paul
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