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Old 10-10-2014, 11:48 AM   #1
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How many lbs of stuff do you fulltimers add to your rigs

We are looking at a 2015 4369 Dutch Star. The CCC is 6772 lbs. Over 3 tons of cargo capacity. What do you weigh now vs when you picked it up and it was empty. Randy
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We are looking at a 2015 4369 Dutch Star. The CCC is 6772 lbs. Over 3 tons of cargo capacity. What do you weigh now vs when you picked it up and it was empty. Randy
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I carry a little over 2500 lbs of food, water and "stuff", (tools, cookware, dishes, appliances, clothes, bedding, etc) ... plus I "4 down tow" a 3,000 lb Saturn ION.... (which adds to the GVWR, but not the CCC).
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How many lbs of stuff do you fulltimers add to your rigs

You have a tag axel. This adds considerably to the CCC, but is more about the nice ride than anything else.
If yours is similar to mine, the CCC max cannot be met without carrying gold or lead.
My GW is 44,600 and with my fulltiming load is about 37,500. I dont know the dry weight; doesnt matter to me. I cant imagin adding another 4+ tons.
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I carry a little over 2500 lbs of food, water and "stuff", (tools, cookware, dishes, appliances, clothes, bedding, etc) ... plus I "4 down tow" a 3,000 lb Saturn ION.... (which adds to the GVWR, but not the CCC).
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Acctualy, your Saturn adds to your GCWR, not your GVWR .
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Acctualy, your Saturn adds to your GCWR, not your GVWR .
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We are looking at a 2015 4369 Dutch Star. The CCC is 6772 lbs. Over 3 tons of cargo capacity. What do you weigh now vs when you picked it up and it was empty. Randy

I expect you won't have any limit problems.

Limit numbers on my coach , other than GVWR, are approximate due to mods over the years. But they're pretty close.

UVW is 26308
GVWR is 31000
Nominal CCC is 2974
Gross at last weighing was 30870

So you see, our DutchStar lives its entire life at Max Gross. Underscores the importance of tire care.

And our life that we carry with us weighs about 3000 lbs.
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I had that discussion with Newmar. The front, drive and tag axle weights add up to 47500 lbs but the max is listed at around 44,500. They talked to the engineers as to why it isn't listed at the higher capacity and they said it would be impossible to get 17500 lbs on the front axle so no reason to list that much capacity. These numbers are very helpful. I didn't think getting to gross was possible and these reply's are confirming it. Thanks
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I'll be honest with you. When we went fulltime over 4yrs. ago, we loaded up the coach and hit the road. Probably not the smartest thing I've ever done, but our Dutch Star has never been across a scale. I've always kept a close watch on the tires, having them rotated, and kept them pressured up, and....knock on wood...never had a problem.
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our Dutch Star has never been across a scale I've always kept a close watch on the tires, having them rotated, and kept them pressured up, and....knock on wood...never had a problem.
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If your coach has never been across a scale, how do you know if/when your tires are pressured up to the correct/proper/recommended PSI?
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We are looking at a 2015 4369 Dutch Star. The CCC is 6772 lbs. Over 3 tons of cargo capacity. What do you weigh now vs when you picked it up and it was empty. Randy
In truth many of us weigh too much. DW has packed us to the max with clothing, heavy dishes and many plants.

The best practice is to load the coach, take it to the scales and get a 4 corner weigh. Re distribute or off load if needed and set the tire pressure per axle as required by the tire manufacturer. A note for tag axles. Even though they are self adjusting it is not a bad idea to have it adjusted by the shop after you are loaded. I have read many posts on this topic and the conses is pretty even. Get it checked. A good option is to go to the Freightliner factory in Gaffney, SC to get the coach chassis check out. We had wonderful service and are glad we went. If you make an appointment things go quicker. We were 'squeezed' in after 3 days in the parking lot. Power is provided.
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If your coach has never been across a scale, how do you know if/when your tires are pressured up to the correct/proper/recommended PSI?
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I think people over analyze everything, to the point of almost being paralyzed if everything isn't perfect. I've always kept my Michelins aired up to 120psi and spend my time thinking of the next beautiful place we'll be staying. Now I know that's probably not the perfect way of doing things, but I'm far from perfect. So I'll just keep blissfully, or some people might say naively heading on down the road as we enter our 5th year of fulltiming.
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I think people over analyze everything, to the point of almost being paralyzed if everything isn't perfect. I've always kept my Michelins aired up to 120psi and spend my time thinking of the next beautiful place we'll be staying. Now I know that's probably not the perfect way of doing things, but I'm far from perfect. So I'll just keep blissfully, or some people might say naively heading on down the road as we enter our 5th year of fulltiming.
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About 150 pounds shy of my GVWR
The chassis manufactures do build in a over weight fudge factor. I have read what it is but I don't recall at the moment. +5% seems like what I remember. But, at this age I don't always trust what I remember.
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