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Old 01-28-2022, 01:52 PM   #1
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LED Puck Ceiling Lights

Replaced another ceiling puck light today in our 2014 DS. We’ve had our coach 4 years now so its not like this is a constant issue and is the 2nd light in 2 years so I'm not too worried about a massive outage starting but………Its just amazing that both of these lights I replaced, were totally BURNED OUT and obviously got extremely hot. I’ve attached a couple pics.

The lights are dang easy to replace especially if you aren't worried about wrecking the old ones as my pics show. Just thought I’d share the pics and a little bit of being worried about the quality of the lights initially put in the coach. Next week its going to be replacing the dash blower motor!!! Always something.

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Old 01-28-2022, 06:24 PM   #2
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On our 18 London Aire we have had over 50 front LED ceiling light burn out in the last 4 years. Had the coach to factory on this plus 2 large Newmar dealers and still having them burn out. Getting quick at replacing them and we aren't the only ones with these LED ceiling light problems.
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Old 01-28-2022, 07:45 PM   #3
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I have replaced about 10. I buy 6 at a time now.
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Old 01-29-2022, 06:41 AM   #4
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Replaced another ceiling puck light today in our 2014 DS. We’ve had our coach 4 years now so its not like this is a constant issue and is the 2nd light in 2 years so I'm not too worried about a massive outage starting but………Its just amazing that both of these lights I replaced, were totally BURNED OUT and obviously got extremely hot. I’ve attached a couple pics.

The lights are dang easy to replace especially if you aren't worried about wrecking the old ones as my pics show. Just thought I’d share the pics and a little bit of being worried about the quality of the lights initially put in the coach. Next week its going to be replacing the dash blower motor!!! Always something.

Thanks
This is more than a simple bulb failure. You could have had a fire. I would send these picture to Newmar and replace ALL if the original lights IMO!!
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I purchased some new LED lights at newmar and they are plastic, not like the originals which are a heavier metal. Not sure if this is an issue in the long run but I've only replaced 3 in 6 years.
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If your LEDs look like that when they come out, you're putting too much voltage into them. If they say 12v on the back, they mean 12v, not 14.3 or whatever the battery charger puts through them. I bet even if they're not burned out yet, you have more lights that are significantly degraded in output.



You might be a good candidate for a constant voltage regulator like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Stabilizer-DR.../dp/B081RG8XP5


You'd probably have to find a big one to cover an entire bank of lights (or potentially one entire lighting control board) but installed at each should probably fix your melting LED problem. You would likely lose the ability to use the dimming feature, if equipped.
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My 2011 dutchstar used halogen bulbs. They were 10 amps each and got very hot. I changed them all out for led bulbs, at 1 amp each, and it runs much cooler. I seem to remember there were almost 70 bulbs. With all of them on, that was huge savings on battery.
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My 2011 dutchstar used halogen bulbs. They were 10 amps each and got very hot. I changed them all out for led bulbs, at 1 amp each, and it runs much cooler. I seem to remember there were almost 70 bulbs. With all of them on, that was huge savings on battery.


When you switched to LED, did the high/low light setting work for you?
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My coach is either on or off. (not Dimmable). I just know that the old bulbs got extremly hot, and I deemed them as a hazard, as there was signs of arcing on the contacts. I would try one bulb first, before I bought for the whole coach.
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On our 18 London Aire we have had over 50 front LED ceiling light burn out in the last 4 years. Had the coach to factory on this plus 2 large Newmar dealers and still having them burn out. Getting quick at replacing them and we aren't the only ones with these LED ceiling light problems.
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My 2017 DS never had an issue with the lights but my 2018 KG had many. I probably replaced everyone at least once and still had flickering
Also read earlier articles about 2018 Newmar puck lites having issues. Either they changed the LED supplier or the power supply and they weren’t compatible with each other. Never an official root cause. I will say my 2019 KG has had no issues.
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I found much less expensive replacements from M4 Products for the LED light pans.
https://m4products.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQ...AaApJ5EALw_wcB

Very helpful folks there.

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I got 18 new ones from the mfgr under warranty. Almost all out of them. Now I'm soldering different leds into the burnt out original bases, I buy on Ebay. Tons cheaper and brighter.
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We've had our Dutch Star for about 5 months and 6 of the LED lights have failed or are failing so far. Can someone link to good replacements? That link didn't go to a product, for me, TXiceman.

The photos of burned-out lights are scary!
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I found much less expensive replacements from M4 Products for the LED light pans.
https://m4products.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQ...AaApJ5EALw_wcB

Very helpful folks there.

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I'm with you on this one. I converted everything to LED over five years ago and only one has failed and it failed gracefully. That's quality.

Oh, and I'd add Cabin Bright to the good guy list.
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