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11-21-2020, 06:36 PM
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Level or slide outs first
Do you level first our put slide outs first? Does it really matter?
If you were going to store RV for a month, would you store on tires or pads?
Thanks
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11-21-2020, 06:45 PM
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Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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On the slides out question, follow your manual. Different models different order.
Mine sets on its jacks in storage.
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11-21-2020, 06:46 PM
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My manual specifically says slide out extended at ride height. Then level, but I do have air levelling so that may be specific to my coach.
When stored it is on the ground, unless in an area with soft ground then on boards big enough to keep me from sinking.
These are my procedures and work for me.
Each person has there own specific wants and expectations.
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11-21-2020, 07:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GWHauler
Do you level first our put slide outs first? Does it really matter?
Both will work - but if you think about it for a minute it might be clear as to what and why - if the frame is level and Not torqued either will work - but the issue is if the leveling system screws up and it thinks it is level , but not, then when the Big slide - one with the level floor goes out, or in, if the frame is torqued there is a good chance it will bind up - Not Good! So to solve that issue many/some manufactures suggest or direct you to open the slides when the coach is aired up - which most of the time is means there is very little/no chance for the frame to be Torqued.
So there you go - if the frame is level - the slide outs will go in and out with no Problem - either way. JMHO.
If you were going to store RV for a month, would you store on tires or pads?
Same answer - both work - just depends on you - no right or wrong one on this.
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Hope this helps,
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11-21-2020, 07:33 PM
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The manual for our ‘04 Itasca Sunrise specifically states that the coach should be leveled before deploying the slides, then adjust the leveling if required.
We always store ours leveled on the jacks. No reason other than it sits on a pad in our driveway and we sometimes deploy the slides to get to the wardrobe in the bedroom.
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11-21-2020, 08:10 PM
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Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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And mine is the opposite, slides out then level. Thats why I said check your manual for your coach.
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Originally Posted by AveryF
The manual for our ‘04 Itasca Sunrise specifically states that the coach should be leveled before deploying the slides, then adjust the leveling if required.
We always store ours leveled on the jacks. No reason other than it sits on a pad in our driveway and we sometimes deploy the slides to get to the wardrobe in the bedroom.
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11-21-2020, 08:26 PM
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Thanks for the replies. I will check with the manual. I was told to do slide outs first and the level. I didn't think that sounded correct.
I thought storing on pads, might be better on tires.
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11-21-2020, 08:28 PM
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Common sense would say to level your rig first before extending the slides. Taken to an extreme, if the rig were parked where the frame were severely twisted, then the slide could bind when being extended. The same goes for long term parking, putting down boards just keeps the tires from contacting the ground and eventually sinking in.
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11-21-2020, 08:34 PM
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It would be stored on a concrete pad, so sinking is not an issue. I just thought it might be better on suspension and tires would not have flat spots.
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11-21-2020, 08:36 PM
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Whatever YOUR owners manual says.
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11-21-2020, 09:06 PM
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Here is what Newmar says and verified that in May when were at the factory.
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11-21-2020, 09:48 PM
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Newmar Owners Club
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You can't always go by the owners manual either!
This is my coach after 15 minutes of attempting to air back up before I bring the full wall slide back in. Sometimes if I manually dump and try to air up several times, I can get it to work. And I ALWAYS make sure my secondary tank air pressure is at max before pushing the "Travel Mode" button.
At this point, the jacks have all retracted, the rear air bags as well as the front passenger air bag have all fully re-inflated, and the front drivers side airbag will not re-inflate due to the weight of the full wall slide. This really twists the chassis frame and happens anytime my parking spot is low on the drivers side.
After having the dealer check out all the chassis air systems and finding no issues, Spartans only solution is to state that in spite of what Newmar says, whenever my parking spot is drivers side low, I must level first, then slides out. Of course you must still "manage the gap!"
Even when I am on level ground and all the slides are in, the front drivers side takes far longer to inflate than all the rest, causing the chassis frame to twist every time. In talking to my dealer, they said that they are having to give the same "level first then slides out" advice to many of their customers.
I still feel that the Spartan front air bags are undersized for the weight the front drivers side is carrying. I have never had another coach that airs up so unevenly.
PS However you decide to do it, slides out then level or level and then slides out, always bring the slides in using the same method!
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11-22-2020, 07:00 AM
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Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tqqest
You can't always go by the owners manual either!
This is my coach after 15 minutes of attempting to air back up before I bring the full wall slide back in. Sometimes if I manually dump and try to air up several times, I can get it to work. And I ALWAYS make sure my secondary tank air pressure is at max before pushing the "Travel Mode" button.
Attachment 308874
At this point, the jacks have all retracted, the rear air bags as well as the front passenger air bag have all fully re-inflated, and the front drivers side airbag will not re-inflate due to the weight of the full wall slide. This really twists the chassis frame and happens anytime my parking spot is low on the drivers side.
After having the dealer check out all the chassis air systems and finding no issues, Spartans only solution is to state that in spite of what Newmar says, whenever my parking spot is drivers side low, I must level first, then slides out. Of course you must still "manage the gap!"
Even when I am on level ground and all the slides are in, the front drivers side takes far longer to inflate than all the rest, causing the chassis frame to twist every time. In talking to my dealer, they said that they are having to give the same "level first then slides out" advice to many of their customers.
I still feel that the Spartan front air bags are undersized for the weight the front drivers side is carrying. I have never had another coach that airs up so unevenly.
PS However you decide to do it, slides out then level or level and then slides out, always bring the slides in using the same method!
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Something is not right there. That should air up all bags correctly. I have a full wall slide in my 4369 and my manual says (short version)...
Park, check the gap around the slides, slides out, level. Reverse order when leaving.
I have never had nor heard of the issue you are showing there.
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11-22-2020, 07:16 AM
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Ford Super Duty Owner
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@ tqqest
I have stayed overnight in places were I can not put the jacks down nor do I have air leveling and just put out the full wall slide and doesn't lean like that.
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