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08-15-2017, 08:54 AM
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Looking at a 2008 Newmar DP
Hi,
I am starting research on 2008 Newmar DP's, so far I see Country Stars and Ventanas for about 90k.
I will be moving to Texas next year for work, we will take 3 long tris a year and then use every other weekend.
Comfort drive and air ride is a must for me.
Not sure yet what Toad we will use but if I decide to keep my 2010 Toyota 4 runner I will put a drive shaft disconnect on it.
It is not for full timing but we may spend up to a month in it with 2 cats and a dog and 3-4 nights every 3 weeks or so and couple of 1 week trips.
I called Newmar and they said not to get too hung up on dual pane windows.
Any advice appreciated,
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08-15-2017, 10:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1stMH
Hi,
I am starting research on 2008 Newmar DP's, so far I see Country Stars and Ventanas for about 90k.
I will be moving to Texas next year for work, we will take 3 long tris a year and then use every other weekend.
Comfort drive and air ride is a must for me.
Not sure yet what Toad we will use but if I decide to keep my 2010 Toyota 4 runner I will put a drive shaft disconnect on it.
It is not for full timing but we may spend up to a month in it with 2 cats and a dog and 3-4 nights every 3 weeks or so and couple of 1 week trips.
I called Newmar and they said not to get too hung up on dual pane windows.
Any advice appreciated,
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Can you elaborate on your interest or concern re:windows ??
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08-15-2017, 10:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bruceisla
Can you elaborate on your interest or concern re:windows ??
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I was asking will dual pane windows make much difference for cooling a coach.
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08-15-2017, 10:51 AM
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Haven't had a rig since 2000 (3 now) without dual pane windows and we have moderate temps here.
They do fail though as I've had three replaced in the last year. On one I did opt for a single pane high efficiency glass. Glass place says it only makes a 10% difference, but I found it let a lot more heat in than the original dual pane right next to it. Not totally happy with the change, but at least it will never fail again. The late DW would like it as she complained that she couldn't see much out that window due to the reflection when it was dual pane.
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08-15-2017, 12:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_D
Haven't had a rig since 2000 (3 now) without dual pane windows and we have moderate temps here.
They do fail though as I've had three replaced in the last year. On one I did opt for a single pane high efficiency glass. Glass place says it only makes a 10% difference, but I found it let a lot more heat in than the original dual pane right next to it. Not totally happy with the change, but at least it will never fail again. The late DW would like it as she complained that she couldn't see much out that window due to the reflection when it was dual pane.
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I have heard they can fail.
So I see a 2008 Ventana weeks for about 95$ and a 2006$ for 70$ so would I expect to pay about 80$ next year?
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08-15-2017, 12:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1stMH
Comfort drive and air ride is a must for me.
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Not sure why you "must" have comfort drive. I drove both with and without, couldn't tell much difference, bought a 2004 coach without CD, saved $$$$.
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08-15-2017, 01:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by clayfeet
Not sure why you "must" have comfort drive. I drove both with and without, couldn't tell much difference, bought a 2004 coach without CD, saved $$$$.
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Because I have seen do many Newmar owners mention it's merits.
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08-15-2017, 04:09 PM
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We love our 08 Kountry Star. Nice extras are ,1st year with Comfort Drive, flat panel TVs, full vinyl tile floor, ours has outside cooler/freezer. Very well made . same build quality as much higher priced newmars. 400hp cummins is a step up from Ventana.
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08-15-2017, 04:45 PM
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08 was 1st year for CD in full lineup of DP's. In 07 MADP and above have it, but non adjustable.
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08-15-2017, 04:50 PM
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Thanks both,
Any of the Newmar coaches (gas or diesel (will be far nicer than what I have already). :-)
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08-17-2017, 09:02 AM
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08 Mountain Air
Hi,
We have an 08 Mountain Air and love it. With over 115,000 miles it still rides like a dream. We purchased it new because of the K2 chassis and Comfort Drive. Both are fantastic and we would not have a coach without Comfort Drive. Some things to look out for as you look for an 08 Mountain Air:
1. Window fogging. We had all of our single push out windows replaced under warranty due to fogging in the first 5 years of ownership. There was a bad batch of windows in the 07/08 time frame. In the past 2 years we have repaired the remaining 4 double pain windows due to our high mileage. The seals tend to give after many years. No big deal.
2. Sidewall Checking - Many 08 Mountain Airs had defective wall siding resulting in sidewall checking. For a relatively reasonable cost Newmar replaced our sidewalls and repainted the coach 4 years ago. The coach was 4 year out of Warranty but Newmar stood up.
Those are the two big things to look out for beyond normal wear and tear. Good luck in your search!
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08-17-2017, 10:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Radioman
Hi,
We have an 08 Mountain Air and love it. With over 115,000 miles it still rides like a dream. We purchased it new because of the K2 chassis and Comfort Drive. Both are fantastic and we would not have a coach without Comfort Drive. Some things to look out for as you look for an 08 Mountain Air:
1. Window fogging. We had all of our single push out windows replaced under warranty due to fogging in the first 5 years of ownership. There was a bad batch of windows in the 07/08 time frame. In the past 2 years we have repaired the remaining 4 double pain windows due to our high mileage. The seals tend to give after many years. No big deal.
2. Sidewall Checking - Many 08 Mountain Airs had defective wall siding resulting in sidewall checking. For a relatively reasonable cost Newmar replaced our sidewalls and repainted the coach 4 years ago. The coach was 4 year out of Warranty but Newmar stood up.
Those are the two big things to look out for beyond normal wear and tear. Good luck in your search!
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Yes, we bought our 07 MADP used in 2014, and the dealer had to replace 90% of the windows due to fogging.
I'm surprised at your checking. I was thinking that it was on earlier models. The only checking we have is a minimal amount on the front door. Nothing on the walls.
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08-17-2017, 02:12 PM
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Yes, the checking started at the front door area but never made it any farther since we just had the whole coach resided. We have a black and grey coach and the checking was just barely visible at the time.
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08-17-2017, 03:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scottybdivin
Yes, we bought our 07 MADP used in 2014, and the dealer had to replace 90% of the windows due to fogging.
I'm surprised at your checking. I was thinking that it was on earlier models. The only checking we have is a minimal amount on the front door. Nothing on the walls.
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I have some checking ... mostly in dark colors. It's cosmetic and not a big issue for me. I wax with Turtle Wax Jet Black .... lasts 3-6 months and fills the little checks with black.
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